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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Softest paywall ever - they do such good work, they can have an anonymous email of mine no problem

Magic link’s so annoying though, just wanna password (they’re journalists not techies though is the long and short of it)

https://www.404media.co/why-404-media-needs-your-email-address/

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[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

AI stealing our work. The collapse of social networks. The need to pay journalists to produce impactful journalism. Here is why we are asking for your email address to read 404 Media.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So basically you need to spam me. Because a donation plea every so often . . .doesn't get enough addresses to sell?

I'm saying it's a flawed implementation is all.

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[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Purely anecdotal but they're the only news site that I've ever given my email to and I actually enjoy seeing their emails. They send entire (interesting) articles that can be read with no CSS/tracking images enabled and their monetisation is a small text ad that breaks a single couple of paragraphs.

I've never gotten an email from them that was begging for money or anything like that, just basically an RSS feed of interesting articles

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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

The idea that forcing a signup (building a web of information about a user through the use of cookies and other browser metadata) to protect against AI (that is gonna use tooling, mirrors, proxies and any number of fully working methodologies) is ludicrous.

They just want to track who you are, what you do, and then sell that data which should never have been gathered in the first place as part of their advertising revenue.

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[–] DesertCreosote@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Normally I would agree with you, but given how much they care about privacy (as indicated by what they write about and talk about on their podcast), I don’t think tracking is what they’re after in this specific case.

And they know that the signup won’t completely block AI, but it does help.

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Or...

https://archive.is/5QFkF

But they are the same mob so why is the ~~suffix~~ folder different? ph, vn, is, md, today are interchangeable.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Redundancy, in case of loss of a domain.

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Sorry, "Suffixes" was a confusing expression on my part because then I went on to list the TLD's.

I wasn't talking about different domains. I was talking about different folders. What we have here is two copies of the same folder in the same domain.

Other person gave
https://archive.ph/TFqAx

I gave
https://archive.is/5QFkF

So
https://archive.is/TFqAx
and
https://archive.ph/5QFkF
work too.

Either 5QFkF or TFqAx should exist, not both. That is how it normally works.

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[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They are captures of the same page at different times .

https://archive.is/5QFkF is the snapshot taken 7 Nov 2025 01:40 and

https://archive.is/TFqAx is the one taken 6 Nov 2024 17:08

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thanks. I see now that there is a history button. How long has that been the case?

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[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

Not sure. I've only known about the site for half a year or so.

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

I know that when you try to archive a site that is already on there, it just serves up the old version. I don't even know how you would create different versions.

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[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Huh... I didn't realize that. I'm actually not sure how you would get it to take a new capture.

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[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

From what I recall, at the time that it detects that it already has an archive copy of the page you're requesting, it will tell you that it has an existing archive and ask you if you want to see that one or create a new one. They may also show the date and timestamp of the existing archive. This is all from memory and it's been at least a few weeks since I saw it, so my description may not be entirely accurate.