▲ 329 ▼ A reminder that it's always been this way, the manosphere is just the latest version of it (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/witchesvspatriarchy@lemmy.ca 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 year ago (8 children) I don't get it, both are cool? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago Yeah, that happens a lot with regressive nutjobs. They'll describe utopia as if it's the apocalypse and assume you'll agree with them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would say that the point is this kind of sentiment from the manosphere, for example just these quotes by Andrew Tate: Look familiar? Good for you if you get to live your middle upper class cottagecore dream with a hipster lumberjack that brings home everything you'll ever need. That definitely sounds pretty awesome. But mostly this is about control and power of men over women, especially for women that aren't in the economic class to get to have shelves of unread books and the luxury of spending all of their time doing arts and crafts and making tiktok videos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) We shouldn't publicize Andrew Tate, he's like a malware virus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* Yeah. For a long time I had no idea who he is, cuz' I wasn't on Facebook and Twitter I suppose. I only found out when he got in trouble in Romania, and I regret finding out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 1 year ago* I understand the sentiment but also, I should think a community called "Witches vs Patriarchy" would actually involve the "vs Patriarchy" part and not just be another !witchymemes@lemmy.world. And Andrew Tate is like everything wrong with the patriarchy rolled into one and one of the poster boys for it these days. So it comes with the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Im not super clear myself on OPs comment, but I believe they are just making a connection between what the comic is trying to do and what andrew tate is trying to do. Both are trying to demonize women, but due to the comics age it simply falls flat in the modern age. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I see it as a commentary on how quickly times were changing back then. What's telling is what some are reading into it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago One of each, then! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago Yeah, that happens a lot with regressive nutjobs. They'll describe utopia as if it's the apocalypse and assume you'll agree with them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children) I would say that the point is this kind of sentiment from the manosphere, for example just these quotes by Andrew Tate: Look familiar? Good for you if you get to live your middle upper class cottagecore dream with a hipster lumberjack that brings home everything you'll ever need. That definitely sounds pretty awesome. But mostly this is about control and power of men over women, especially for women that aren't in the economic class to get to have shelves of unread books and the luxury of spending all of their time doing arts and crafts and making tiktok videos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) We shouldn't publicize Andrew Tate, he's like a malware virus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* Yeah. For a long time I had no idea who he is, cuz' I wasn't on Facebook and Twitter I suppose. I only found out when he got in trouble in Romania, and I regret finding out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 1 year ago* I understand the sentiment but also, I should think a community called "Witches vs Patriarchy" would actually involve the "vs Patriarchy" part and not just be another !witchymemes@lemmy.world. And Andrew Tate is like everything wrong with the patriarchy rolled into one and one of the poster boys for it these days. So it comes with the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Im not super clear myself on OPs comment, but I believe they are just making a connection between what the comic is trying to do and what andrew tate is trying to do. Both are trying to demonize women, but due to the comics age it simply falls flat in the modern age. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) We shouldn't publicize Andrew Tate, he's like a malware virus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* Yeah. For a long time I had no idea who he is, cuz' I wasn't on Facebook and Twitter I suppose. I only found out when he got in trouble in Romania, and I regret finding out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 1 year ago* I understand the sentiment but also, I should think a community called "Witches vs Patriarchy" would actually involve the "vs Patriarchy" part and not just be another !witchymemes@lemmy.world. And Andrew Tate is like everything wrong with the patriarchy rolled into one and one of the poster boys for it these days. So it comes with the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* Yeah. For a long time I had no idea who he is, cuz' I wasn't on Facebook and Twitter I suppose. I only found out when he got in trouble in Romania, and I regret finding out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 1 year ago* I understand the sentiment but also, I should think a community called "Witches vs Patriarchy" would actually involve the "vs Patriarchy" part and not just be another !witchymemes@lemmy.world. And Andrew Tate is like everything wrong with the patriarchy rolled into one and one of the poster boys for it these days. So it comes with the discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Im not super clear myself on OPs comment, but I believe they are just making a connection between what the comic is trying to do and what andrew tate is trying to do. Both are trying to demonize women, but due to the comics age it simply falls flat in the modern age. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Im not super clear myself on OPs comment, but I believe they are just making a connection between what the comic is trying to do and what andrew tate is trying to do. Both are trying to demonize women, but due to the comics age it simply falls flat in the modern age. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I see it as a commentary on how quickly times were changing back then. What's telling is what some are reading into it. permalink fedilink source parent