paultimate14 comments on Unironic Joker Meme

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

If no one is neurotypical, as you claim, then no one is neurodivergent

This statement here is just completely nonsensical rhetoric. You are staying it like it's some sort of logical conclusion that it's true when there is no such logical conclusion. Maybe that's why you think it's nonsense... Because it is nonsense that you're making up, not me.

Neurotypical GROUPS exist. Neurotypical BEHAVIORS exist. Neurotypical INDIVIDUALS do not. You aren't ever going to get diagnosed as neurotypical.

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[+] Part4@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lol are those people in the room with us right now?

They assessed as not qualifying for a diagnosis for the specific disorders they are being tested for. That is a far, far cry from being "diagnosed as neurotypical".

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 1 year ago

If you don't have the disorders that would classify you as neurodivergent, then by default you're neurotypical.

Neurotypical is the default state, and you're tested to see if you diverge from the default state. If you don't have that divergence then you're neurotypical.

But we're pointlessly arguing semantics.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Do you ever get diagnosed for not having something? No.

So I guess there is no lack of disease. Everyone is sick.

This is what your argument is saying. And it's asinine.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you go around to people who aren't coughing and label them "sickless"?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No; and that's the point. You don't disgnose a lack of illness. Which is why nobody would be diagnosed as neurotypical. 🤦‍♂️

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Which is why if we started making memes attributing behaviors to people who are just... Not sick... It would be really weird and innacurate.

Or like, what about people who are sick and are just having a good day? Or people who are sick but their meds are working so they don't look like it from the outside? Maybe they are sick, but they just have a runny nose and not the cough you're expecting?

The meme could have very easily been captioned "someone telling me about mindsets and positive thinking" and it would be perfectly fine. But, for no reason other than to sew hostility and division, OP added a bunch of irrelevant identity politics into the mix.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago*

You missed the point of the meme entirely, apparently.

This is basically someone who isn't sick telling a person who is sick that their struggles aren't real. It would not work without the separation.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Neurotypical INDIVIDUALS do not. You aren’t ever going to get diagnosed as neurotypical.

What does this even mean? lmao

Yeah, you're not going to go through an assessment and have an expert be all "your diagnosis is neurotypical", just like how you don't go to a doctor to be diagnosed as healthy. It's not a diagnosis. Being neurodivergent means that you can be placed on a spectrum of neurocognitive difference from the norm. If you don't fall within this spectrum, you are by process of elimination neurotypical.

This is giving "we're all a little bit neurospicy" and no one's here for that nonsense.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Neurotypical" is a term that only makes sense when talking about groups, and in contrast to other groups you are discussing. It only makes sense when you are aggregating populations of people. Referring to an individual as "neurotypical" is nonsensical.

Furthermore, inexpertly diagnosing someone on the bus (or otherwise, but the setting of the meme is a bus so I'm using that) as "neurotypical" just because you don't immediately recognize any noticeable traits of neurodiveristy is extremely problematic. It's dangerous to just toss the word "neurotypical" around casually.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You're aware that no one is diagnosing the men in the image, right? That's obviously not the point. It seems to me like you're just arguing out of bad faith.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Do you not know how meme's work? OP is constructing a strawman. Claiming individuals who are white, middle class, neurotypical, male people exist. Implying causality between these identities and this behavior. Which is racist, sexist, generally bigoted nonsense.