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Framework flame war erupts over support of politically polarizing Linux projects (www.theregister.com)
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Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a "big tent" after a Debian developer objected to the company's sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.

Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.

Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a "toxic and hateful community," Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.

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[+] -28 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah good luck with that. The righteous left doesn't want empathetic coexistence with alternative views any more than the immoral right does.

DHH has fairly normal right wing views. Nobody has been able to point me to anything so objectionable that should mean he is excluded from the community. The worst I could find is that he thinks it would be better if London was predominantly native British, which I don't think is an out-there idea.

These inclusive communities have to learn to be more actually inclusive. It's ok to ban him if he's harassing people due to their political views in the Ruby community, but it looks like all he did was post some moderately right-wing views on his blog.

Not going to hold my breath though.

I don't know anything about the Hyprland guy but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a similar story.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thought/

    If ethnic cleansing constitutes "fairly normal right-wing views," then right wingers have no place in polite, civil society because they support a violent, genocidal ideology bent on destroying Western Civilization. How can we have empathetic coexistence, for example, in a government that forcably disappears legal non-white immigrants and sends them to labor camps via federally funded masked thugs operating in unmarked vans? How can anyone peacefully coexist with a group that only wants to make space in society for white Americans and is willing to achieve those ends violently and extralegally?

    It didn't used to be this way. Right-wingers can go back to peaceful coexistence when they put aside the supremacist and nationalist viewpoints and return to advocating for low taxes and small government without excluding entire groups of people. But make no mistake, the Right -- the intolerant ones -- have to change first. The fact that you think that this is "normal" is a chilling indictment of modern society. At this rate, in 10 years you'll think unelected leaders, concentration camps and death by firing squad is "normal" too.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for posting the blogpost -- when I checked this thread originally (and the article), I seemed to have missed the focus on DHH. Admittedly, I just don't know much about him -- though, I'm starting to get an idea why this blew up so much.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The worst I could find is that he thinks it would be better if London was predominantly native British, which I don't think is an out-there idea.

    If that doesn't sound racist to you, I have bad news for you.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    No I don't think it's racist to want to live in a city that is predominantly occupied by similar people to you. I think his stats are wrong - London is still mostly British people (at least it was when I last went). But imagine if it was like 95% Indian people. That would a huge change and a big cultural shift and yes I think it's ok to object to that with instantly becoming racist.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Given that I've never seen you in the Ruby, Rails, or Sinatra communities, I'm going to guess that you aren't actually part of this conversation. Also, you've been fairly obvious in your cryptofascism since this Lemmy instance was set up; you're one of several users that have ensured that programming.dev has a fairly bad federated reputation, and I'm not sure that anybody really cares whether you're included given that you don't appear to publish Free Software or anything else useful.

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