Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] 197 points 1 year ago (76 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (34 children)

    How much "feedback" do you think it will take to make them contradict the vindictive sitting President? Apple doesn't care about what you think about this because it's not for you.

    You know what you can do? Stop giving them money. Write them an email from your iCloud account, then delete said account. Cancel any subscriptions (this seemed to be effective against Disney).

    The fed gov holds too much power. You have to show them that Americans, collectively, have more power to affect their bottom line than the Pres, and (most importantly) are willing to exercise it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    The only people worse than Apple fans, are Apple haters.

    Because I see a lot of vocal Apple haters on Lemmy, just shitting all over Apple users, but I rarely see Apple users here shitting on Android or anything else.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Apple is the trend setter. The avant garde. If Apple does it, soon everyone will be doing it. If you see Apple doing something shitty, you need to nip that in the bud right quick.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use a iPhone, my mom and dad (may he rest in peace) were already using them and wanted to use the family features on them to keep my brother and me safe. I didn’t choose to be in the ecosystem, I was just placed in it.

    I also just have no reason to talk shit on android users because I know many of them are like me. Just placed into the ecosystem by parents, since their parents used them. Also just who really gives that much of a fuck? It’s a phone, it’s a laptop or earbuds or whatever. Largely things that people just need in the modern world, and it’s easy to stick with what you know and what’s easy to use.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

    What argument...?

    Out of nowhere, you just started talking shit about Apple users to make yourself feel superior about your individual consumer choices, really cool bro.

    Also unclear who I was making fun of, unless you consider pointing out how absurd your Apple user hate is, to be making fun of you.

    But that's not making fun of you, it's pointing out how pathetic your unprompted and vocal hatred for Apple users was.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

    It's not my reading comprehension that's to blame for your rancid hatred of Apple users and I'm confident that your behavior is repulsive to more people than just me.

    The irony is that I use Linux for desktop and Graphene for mobile so my objections are not rooted in defending my own consumer choices, they're based entirely on your pathetic blind hatred of people who use Apple products.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    You're a sad little creature.

    If I didn't hold you in such contempt, I would pity you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    And you either didn't read the entire thread, or you agree that OP is morally superior to anyone who uses Apple products, and that Apple users are people that should just be hated.

    So which is it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    Please show me where I defended the Apple corporation.

    Because me thinks you can't read good.

    But don't worry, there's a school for that:

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    You literally just said:

    "The Defender of Apple" or whatever is in your fucked up head.

    But when I ask you to provide a single example of my defending Apple, you respond with:

    Man does your brain twist up in pretzels when you think like that?

    Obviously you are not acting in good faith, but we knew that from the start.

    So are you just incapable of admitting you made a mistake?

    I do appreciate the irony of you saying that my mind is twisted up like a pretzel, just beautiful 10/10.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    And you still haven't provided a single quote of mine showing what you're accusing me of.

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  • [–] 147 points 1 year ago (36 children)

    OR stop buying ANY of their products

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  • [–] 113 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    Well, both, really.

    Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter

    But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    I, for one, have never used any of their shit.

    Don't project.

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    Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What do you use?

    I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it.

    Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me.

    I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

    I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products.

    Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Correct.

    One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup?

    A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it

    au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek!

    Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to.

    Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing.

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    The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users.

    That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don't tell them their actions are irredeemable and they've lost you for life.

    If you tell them you'll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You're essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don't mind them bending the knee.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They're based in the USA, they have to work with the government or they'll be targeted/taken over/shut down, surely?

    They could try to escape the USA and move all their operations to Europe, but I think they're just going to stick where they are and do whatever the fascists want them to do. So long as they're getting paid why should they care?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    They had no problem standing up to the FBI when they knew the Constitution still worked. It's not bravery when it doesn't cost you anything and there's nothing to be afraid of. But now things are different and regular every day people don't want to say it out. The implications make them uncomfortable.

    Apple's market share outside of the US is pretty pitiful. Even with their piles of money, it would hurt.

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