You call this animal abuse, the guy barely gets angry, and even if he did get angry it doesn't mean jack shit about how some one treats their pet. You call this animal abuse, the guy isn't even yelling at his dog, it doesn't mean anything.

"I give Kaya the place command as I usually do" He did not do that, he ranted about Israel for a while and then when she dared to step off the platform he said, "Kaya! Please!" Also "Go ba--" and "Stop!"

Like the "she clipped herself" thing, this to me at least is a massive red flag. It's hard to tell what's true, you kind of walk into a situation and you're not sure what to think and it's all conflicting claims. But one of the early things you can pick out is someone who lies about something recent that is instantly verifiable, and does it confidently and sort of automatically. It doesn't mean they're on the wrong side of everything, but it's a massive warning sign, and then if later on they wind up wanting you to take their word for things you know how much weight to give it.

You trying to sell this as “incontrovertible” proof

Pretty sure I never did that, search for "You might disagree with that, and fine"

I have more to say, but not tonight, it is enough for one day good lord. Whenever I get up the gumption to say more I will tag you I guess.

FUCKING EMBARRASSING. DELETE THIS.

No I don't think that I will

Sweet

Keep talking, I just crossposted the new thing with images of the sockets for the shock collar's prongs to !youtubedrama@reddthat.com to try to get that community back going again. I will probably calm down with the crossposts after this, three is enough, but it was a decent amount of fun just doing one crosspost every time one of the Hasan stans said something cult-y to me about it and it has resulted in a pretty quick succession of crossposts at this point lol.