▲ 660 ▼ Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without an online account (www.theverge.com) submitted 1 year ago by ardi60@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (10 children) rufus doesn't help with preloads that you don't want to or can't, for whatever reason, overwrite with a 'clean' install. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (8 children) There are plenty that will boot/install Linux just fine but won't do a nice clean install of Windows 11. Modern Thinkpad E16 (AMD) is one of them, a clean USB won't work, it will always stick at not finding required drivers. You need to inevitably create a USB install from the MS USB Media Creation tool, running on the machine itself from the included crapware Windows - to get an installer USB that will work. Different if you're just pushing a wim over the network from endpoint/scm, but it's basically broken for local users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Just install it in a VM. I've done this before to force Windows 10 to install on a USB stick, you can pass a VM an entire physical drive to use instead of a virtual hard disk and install to that SSD directly from the VM (just kill the VM and reboot into the windows partition when the VM tries to reboot to the windows installation). I'm sure if you passed the VM a USB created with Rufus you could install from that as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16? I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (10 children) rufus doesn't help with preloads that you don't want to or can't, for whatever reason, overwrite with a 'clean' install. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (8 children) There are plenty that will boot/install Linux just fine but won't do a nice clean install of Windows 11. Modern Thinkpad E16 (AMD) is one of them, a clean USB won't work, it will always stick at not finding required drivers. You need to inevitably create a USB install from the MS USB Media Creation tool, running on the machine itself from the included crapware Windows - to get an installer USB that will work. Different if you're just pushing a wim over the network from endpoint/scm, but it's basically broken for local users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Just install it in a VM. I've done this before to force Windows 10 to install on a USB stick, you can pass a VM an entire physical drive to use instead of a virtual hard disk and install to that SSD directly from the VM (just kill the VM and reboot into the windows partition when the VM tries to reboot to the windows installation). I'm sure if you passed the VM a USB created with Rufus you could install from that as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16? I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (8 children) There are plenty that will boot/install Linux just fine but won't do a nice clean install of Windows 11. Modern Thinkpad E16 (AMD) is one of them, a clean USB won't work, it will always stick at not finding required drivers. You need to inevitably create a USB install from the MS USB Media Creation tool, running on the machine itself from the included crapware Windows - to get an installer USB that will work. Different if you're just pushing a wim over the network from endpoint/scm, but it's basically broken for local users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Just install it in a VM. I've done this before to force Windows 10 to install on a USB stick, you can pass a VM an entire physical drive to use instead of a virtual hard disk and install to that SSD directly from the VM (just kill the VM and reboot into the windows partition when the VM tries to reboot to the windows installation). I'm sure if you passed the VM a USB created with Rufus you could install from that as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16? I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (8 children) There are plenty that will boot/install Linux just fine but won't do a nice clean install of Windows 11. Modern Thinkpad E16 (AMD) is one of them, a clean USB won't work, it will always stick at not finding required drivers. You need to inevitably create a USB install from the MS USB Media Creation tool, running on the machine itself from the included crapware Windows - to get an installer USB that will work. Different if you're just pushing a wim over the network from endpoint/scm, but it's basically broken for local users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Just install it in a VM. I've done this before to force Windows 10 to install on a USB stick, you can pass a VM an entire physical drive to use instead of a virtual hard disk and install to that SSD directly from the VM (just kill the VM and reboot into the windows partition when the VM tries to reboot to the windows installation). I'm sure if you passed the VM a USB created with Rufus you could install from that as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16? I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS. Especially pertinent for Lenovo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Just install it in a VM. I've done this before to force Windows 10 to install on a USB stick, you can pass a VM an entire physical drive to use instead of a virtual hard disk and install to that SSD directly from the VM (just kill the VM and reboot into the windows partition when the VM tries to reboot to the windows installation). I'm sure if you passed the VM a USB created with Rufus you could install from that as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16? I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Exec@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc. I've started calling the E-series as E-waste. permalink fedilink source parent