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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (46 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    It's not about bad or good even, it's about having "principles" and acting on them. Democrats in general, for better and worse, are permissive to all kinds of stuff but have a real hard time agreeing on where lines are drawn and picking hills to fight for and die on together.

    It's like a kid having a tantrum on the floor of a public place and the parent going "sorry this is horrible but this just how he acts" and doing nothing to correct them or change the situation when they totally can.

    Republicans don't really have that problem, even when it's objectively the dumbest shit ever.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Weird. It's almost like it's tankie/Russian propaganda. "Both sides are bad and the same and it's hopeless! Give up."

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago

    The first part is correct, both parties are owned by the same billionaires and consistently vote in the interests of those billionaires. The second part is some shit you made up because you don't have a coherent counter-argument to the things the tankies are actually saying.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (35 children)
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    No one asked a tankie... anything ever

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    Yes, I'm such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does. But hey, at least I'm not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.

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    Dems have been and continue to be enthusiastic supporters of Israel, liberals are comfortable trading the lives of innocent Palestinians to keep themselves safe and comfortable

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    liberals are comfortable trading the lives of innocent Palestinians to keep themselves safe and comfortable

    And since they are liberals, they got nothing out of the trade. They were willing to lose to trump over saying no to netanyahu.

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  • [+] -4 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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    Lol ok, so first of all just because you claim you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening dumbass, weak response and you know it. Secondly even if you're ot directly defending Israel you're still making excuses for your party defending funding and arming Israel and taking millions of dollars of AIPAC money. Maintaining a semblance of plausible deniability while still directly materially contributing to genocide isn't better, and neither are you. Liberals are not left of anything, just conservatives who care slightly more about appearances. You're a lying sack of shit and your hands are covered in blood. You deserve Trump and worse.

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    I never said anything about it happening specifically on Lemmy dumbass, try harder. If it's not your party and you're not making excuses for it then it should be pretty easy for you to admit that the dems contiuing suppport for Israel was politically suicidal and stupid, but we both know you'll just make more excuses. There is no centrist position on fucking genocide, you either oppose it or you support it and dems did fuck all to oppose it while happily taking millions in AIPAC money, AIPAC doesn't give money to people who don't support Israel. Like I said, you're a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    You're a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Your shame is as worthless as your political action lol, authoritarianism is a thought-terminating buzzword employed by spineless liberals too terrified of the idea of wielding power for good to actually do anything to help

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    authoritarianism is a thought-terminating

    This phrase renders all your words unlistenable. You just said that if a dictator is friendly to you, then they are good. Bye, blocked tankie.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Lol thank you for directly confirming my assertion, all thought terminated because of the phrase! And then you made some shit up that I never came close to saying in order to justify blocking me, but we both know your real motive is to tuck tail and run from an argument you just lost embarassingly.

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  • [+] -2 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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    I agree, you are like a petulant toddler unwilling to accept reality because it hurts your feelings. Also didn't you say you were going to block me? Not that I'm complaining, you might be a fucking moron but you're more entertaining than my clients and I can easily keep doing this and taking calls all day lol

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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    You and every other liberal are interchangeable, you're all equally selfish, morally bankrupt, disingenuous, spineless. You won't be convinced of anything because you don't give a shit what the truth is, the only thing that matters to you shitbags is brunch

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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    Just because you're not american doesn't mean you're not a liberal, dumbass. If you're making excuses for the US democrats in their support of Israel you're a liberal, end of. Conservatives aren't doing that shit, neither are communists or anarchists, just liberals who feel insecure about their morally bankrupt ideology and selfish decisions.

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  • [+] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    You could be, but you're not lol. You're just another disingenuous morally bankrupt liberal and we both know it, nobody's buying your bullshit

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    You are a liberal, you don't want to accept/admit that because you know they're dogshit. The "non-tankie left" is as worthless as the democrats they keep making excuses for. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yes, I'm such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does.

    Your shame and a dollar would be worth a dollar.

    But hey, at least I'm not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.

    Read like, any book from outside the States. Or speak to someone who actually lived in these "brutal authoritarian" states.

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