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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Yes, I'm such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does. But hey, at least I'm not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Dems have been and continue to be enthusiastic supporters of Israel, liberals are comfortable trading the lives of innocent Palestinians to keep themselves safe and comfortable

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    liberals are comfortable trading the lives of innocent Palestinians to keep themselves safe and comfortable

    And since they are liberals, they got nothing out of the trade. They were willing to lose to trump over saying no to netanyahu.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    liberals are comfortable trading the lives of innocent Palestinians to keep themselves safe and comfortable

    I didn't come across any. I heard the accusation here hundreds of times, but I didn't come across any actual dems or liberals on here defending Israel, AT ALL. Just a bunch of fake "left" wingers shouting about it, trying to get trump elected to own the libs.

    What's the difference between a tankie and a magat? A tankie lies to themselves about politics whereas a magat just lies to everyone else.

    You think that you're auth left, but you're just auth.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Lol ok, so first of all just because you claim you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening dumbass, weak response and you know it. Secondly even if you're ot directly defending Israel you're still making excuses for your party defending funding and arming Israel and taking millions of dollars of AIPAC money. Maintaining a semblance of plausible deniability while still directly materially contributing to genocide isn't better, and neither are you. Liberals are not left of anything, just conservatives who care slightly more about appearances. You're a lying sack of shit and your hands are covered in blood. You deserve Trump and worse.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Lol ok, so first of all just because you claim you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening dumbass, weak response and you know it.

    Link it. Find me lemmy users saying "Vote dem because Israel needs our support".

    All I saw was "yeah Biden is crap but trump would be so much worse" and then the same for Harris. The only people on lemmy who believed that voting for Harris was supporting israel were advocating against voting for Harris. Seriously, do you not even remember? Username checking out again.

    making excuses for your party

    Not my party, matey.

    Liberals are not left of anything

    Objectively false. American liberals are centrists who are left of Republicans.

    You’re a lying sack of shit and your hands are covered in blood.

    I'm not, and I'm not the one who argued for genocide max. That was the NeverHarris brigade, which you are surely in.

    You deserve Trump and worse.

    Says the person who argued for the outcome we have.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I never said anything about it happening specifically on Lemmy dumbass, try harder. If it's not your party and you're not making excuses for it then it should be pretty easy for you to admit that the dems contiuing suppport for Israel was politically suicidal and stupid, but we both know you'll just make more excuses. There is no centrist position on fucking genocide, you either oppose it or you support it and dems did fuck all to oppose it while happily taking millions in AIPAC money, AIPAC doesn't give money to people who don't support Israel. Like I said, you're a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I never said anything about it happening specifically on Lemmy dumbass, try harder

    I did, all the time, and you were too busy arguing with everything I said and calling me names to notice what I actually said.

    Your bravado vanished pretty quick there.

    Harris spoke out against israel a couple of times, but muddied the waters with a bunch of supportive talk to, but that was a truckload better than the republicans who were taking photoshoots next to israeli bombs that they had signed "finish them" and trump, as sane people warned you he would, went for genocide max and concreting over the mass graves theme park policy. Dems are centrists, and right of centre at that. What did you expect?

    You never asked until now, you were too busy shouting, accusing and calling me names to do any listening.

    But again, for the sake of all that is rational and sensible in the world, admit that the dems aren't as bad as the republicunts, with their insane anti trans military rule locking up hispanics without trial and fucking up what little healthcare there is in corporate hellhole america.

    Like I said, you’re a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it.

    I haven't lied to you even once today. You're just not prepared to hear anything that doesn't fit your narrow perspective.

    I fail to see your logic about the blood on my hands. You, however, worked for genocide max trump during the election. Let's hear it. Where do you think I'm guilty of killing?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    You're a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You’re a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it

    I haven’t lied to you even once yesterday or today. You’re just not prepared to hear anything that doesn’t fit your narrow perspective.

    I fail to see your logic about the blood on my hands. You, however, worked for genocide max trump during the election. Let’s hear it. Where do you think I’m guilty of killing?

    Saying something a lot doesn't make it true and isn't very convincing. Come on, show you have a brain and can back up your point!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're a lying sack of shit with blood on your hands and you know it, I don't need to say anything else to or about a morally bankrupt waste of oxygen like yourself

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Except you have no reason for your random accusations, or are unable to express it.

    Trump calls his opponents liars, cheats and felons, whereas that's pretty much a good summary of his own character.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Your shame is as worthless as your political action lol, authoritarianism is a thought-terminating buzzword employed by spineless liberals too terrified of the idea of wielding power for good to actually do anything to help

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    authoritarianism is a thought-terminating

    This phrase renders all your words unlistenable. You just said that if a dictator is friendly to you, then they are good. Bye, blocked tankie.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Lol thank you for directly confirming my assertion, all thought terminated because of the phrase! And then you made some shit up that I never came close to saying in order to justify blocking me, but we both know your real motive is to tuck tail and run from an argument you just lost embarassingly.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    This is full on playground level rhetoric.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    I agree, you are like a petulant toddler unwilling to accept reality because it hurts your feelings. Also didn't you say you were going to block me? Not that I'm complaining, you might be a fucking moron but you're more entertaining than my clients and I can easily keep doing this and taking calls all day lol

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    No, you're confusing me with someone you were arguing with rather than someone commenting on your debating technique.

    Did you think that swearing at me, calling me names and all the anger convinced me I was wrong to suggest that your debating lacked maturity and finesse?

    I'm afraid it did the opposite.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    You and every other liberal are interchangeable, you're all equally selfish, morally bankrupt, disingenuous, spineless. You won't be convinced of anything because you don't give a shit what the truth is, the only thing that matters to you shitbags is brunch

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'm not a liberal. I'm not even American. Did you think insulting me further would impress me?

    It didn't, by the way.

    What are you trying to achieve? Let off steam, or win people round to your point of view? It rather got lost in all the invective.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Just because you're not american doesn't mean you're not a liberal, dumbass. If you're making excuses for the US democrats in their support of Israel you're a liberal, end of. Conservatives aren't doing that shit, neither are communists or anarchists, just liberals who feel insecure about their morally bankrupt ideology and selfish decisions.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Just because you’re not american doesn’t mean you’re not a liberal, dumbass.

    I so dumb, you so clever. Me wrong obvs.

    How about this: I could be neither liberal nor american! Think about it! It would be consistent with what I said, yet not impossible.

    If you’re making excuses for the US democrats in their support of Israel you’re a liberal

    See, this is wrong in all three of supposition, logic and conclusion.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You could be, but you're not lol. You're just another disingenuous morally bankrupt liberal and we both know it, nobody's buying your bullshit

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not liberal. Just rational enough to know that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats in the USA. Tankies find it very hard indeed to admit this, and also apparently don't believe in the existence of the non tankie left. I'm a socialist, not a liberal, not that you ever took the slightest interest in any reality that wasn't the straw man you'd rather be arguing with.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You are a liberal, you don't want to accept/admit that because you know they're dogshit. The "non-tankie left" is as worthless as the democrats they keep making excuses for. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yes, I'm such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does.

    Your shame and a dollar would be worth a dollar.

    But hey, at least I'm not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.

    Read like, any book from outside the States. Or speak to someone who actually lived in these "brutal authoritarian" states.

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