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[–] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Everything can be compared to the basic ( water - flour - milk - eggs - chicken )

If a chicken is 10$ and full roasted chicken is 12$ and a burger is 15$ you know it is a scam.

If 1 kg of flour is 2$ but a small piece of bread is 7$ you know it's a scam..

Coffee is a good example, single origin roasted coffee beans with 300gm is 17$ you can get 15 cup of it. That's rounds up to 1$ per coffee cup. If you the coffee in a store cost more than 2$ you know it's a scam. But you can take into account other expenses ( staff - settings - experience) and decide based on that

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    If 1 kg of flour is 2$ but a small piece of bread is 7$ you know it's a scam..

    This is ignoring labor costs and possible artisan experience, depending on where you buy bread. Also funny because paying $2 for a kg of flour would be a crazy scam; that's more expensive than even the some of the fancier flour brands, which already 3x base price

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    His whole argument ignores labor costs.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes and no. Labor costs are being ignored, but they're not all that significant. If you add in even a relatively high minimum wage, the cost blurs out with any volume. Whether you cost them $7 for an hour or $14 is just the difference of a single wasted meal at current prices.

    Profit and Loss sheets are messy. They're paying back of house, front of house, a manager, power, maintenance and rent, but then they're making dozens of meals an hour. They're paying 1/10 of the cost for raw ingredients.

    Herein lies the rub:

    In 2018, a fast food meal at a number of places for 4 ran about $30-$40; currently, it's closer to $60.

    Tacobell still sells a meal for less than $7 with a drink and enough food to satiate an obese II adult. It's gone up maybe $1.50 since 2018.

    Selection and quality have gone down. Most places have been understaffed since covid, they're paying less in wages, value menus are disappearing.

    It would seem that a bunch of places took opportunities to raise their prices until the lines dissapeared. I remember a time, not long ago, if you went to a drive-through around dinner, you were going to be there for a while. McDonalds put in second lanes in most stores to handle the load.

    I don't think I've been in a fast food line with more than 2 cars in a few years.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Wow there is so much wrong with your statement I don't even know where to begin. I'm just going to stay at the obvious that you can still obviously feed a family of four for $40 or less. I know that because I have a family of four and weed out a lot and I'm very aware of pretty much all of the fast food costs. Well yes there are some that can definitely be $50 $60 or more I can definitely buy meals for everybody to be satiated for $40 or less even. Hell when I'm trying to save money I can't even go a little as low as 20 bucks at a number of different places. And also I'm a business owner and so there are a ton of cost involved besides labor as you mentioned there and the cost of raw materials for food is definitely higher than 1/10 of the cost of what the food is itself. Usually you're dealing with maybe 20 to 30% and that is being spread over the cost of everything else included there.

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    Or less fancy commercial flour 25lbs for less than $10 from Costco.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but where am I gonna keep that much flour in my tiny kitchen?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you have no storage space anywhere, it obv won't work for you.

    I buy a bag, split it into gallon ziplock bags, and store it in a Behren's can (galvonized metal, pest proof) in my basement, refilling my small pantry containers. I also have 40 lbs of pizza flour and a 25 lb bag of rice.

    I make my own pancakes, waffles, rice-a-roni, pizza, calzones, there are zero mixes in the house.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I've got 800 sqft in my place and 7ft ceilings to deal with. It's a galley kitchen that's just barely wide enough to open the oven door.

    Poverty is expensive. I'd love a bigger house.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Flour is worth an entire cabinet or shelf. One of the cheapest ways to eat possible

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