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[+] -13 points 1 year ago* (23 children)

When was the last "regular murder" of this kind—against a political figure of such prominence? Say all you want about their bigotry, I agree, but that is currently mainstream politics. Like it or not, the kids were not prominent, and lives that are not prominent get buried despite their status as preventable horror.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    You can’t murder a Nazi. It’s just putting them down.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Dehumanization does nothing but feed into the bad faith right wing's smearing of progressivism as a whole. Even uprisings need to consider opponents as capable of thought and assume more than constant misery. Just using different words is not going to change reality for the better, especially if said words are misleading. This is the kind of rhetoric that can be used to justify them shooting us. It's just more excuses for Trump to create a police state.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I understand what you’re saying but Trump just canceled his trip to Chicago so, I’d say you are proven wrong. The more this happens the more they fear, And since it is them getting hurt – I don’t see any problem here. You sound quite like a conservative, protecting conservatives. You should be ashamed of yourself

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Assuming that's what you're talking about, Trump already talked about announcing sending the National Guard to Memphis instead of Chicago the night before the shooting; see https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-national-guard-deployment-in-question-ice-immigration-crackdown/.

    The threat of a police state and arbitrary removal is enough for progressive activists to defend against already; encouraging possible grassroots 4chan snipers on every building is not going to help. Furthermore, this shooting has allowed the Trump administration to prominently represent those like you with "If you read this, you are gay LMAO". (I am bi and I absolutely do not intend to say LGBTQ+ representation is bad for the movement; I am saying that this representation of us as closed-minded childish trolls encourages the right to make statements like those the Zeteo article is criticizing and act on them to "preserve national order".)

    We're under the whims of the state. We don't have an uprising. Until then, we should preserve the parts of the state that actually protect us as the only defense against the tools of oppression. If you want to debate people no matter how good or bad your arguments are without getting shot, you should have a problem with this, because the existence of the state precludes chipping away MAGA figureheads' bunkers without having the same done to progressive figures. Having to see bad arguments reach people all day is much better than those people pointing a gun at you.

    I think this thread represents other aspects of my views here well:

    https://kbin.melroy.org/m/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/1184816/Kirk-Assassination-Propaganda-of-the-Deed-and-Luigi

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don’t agree. We need more 4chan Nazis popping people who aren’t “right wing” enough. The problem solves itself. I’m firm I’m my opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    chances are they'll pop progressives instead. the charlottesville rally was called "unite the right", after all

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Like 2 months ago in Minnesota.

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    The two state lawmakers were as prominent as Charlie Kirk?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    No you're right that's insane. Two elected officials are obviously way more prominent than a YouTube personality.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I didn't hear about them before they died. And Turning Point is pretty much the MAGA youth league. Dismissing the US's most influential MAGA voices as just "a YouTube personality" is not doing anything any favor.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just because he was prominent in your life doesn't mean he was to others. I've had to explain to more than a few people who he was since they'd never heard of him at all.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What is your goal with these comments you are making?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    nothing more than the goals of the other commenters here

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