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[–] 122 points 1 year ago (36 children)

is there a real source for this or just some twitter guy?

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    It's just speculation. No real motive has been determined. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-09-12/what-we-know-about-the-suspected-killer-of-charlie-kirk

    LA Times wrote this less than 15 minutes ago:

    Investigators are still looking through evidence and trying to determine a motive in the slaying.

    The only things in writing are the words etched into the bullets, and those are mixed. He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing and other text on others, but nothing to indicate he had liberal or conservative ideologies. If anything, he appeared to be mostly mad at the whole system.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago

    Honestly with this administration, I have a difficult time believing any evidence they provide. The head of the FBI is a fucking podcaster who was able to lie profusely to the point that he caught Trump's attention. That must take a lot of lying.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    There is a post on front page of Reddit that said shooters granny said he was maga on her Facebook page but I did not see any proof of it one way or other.

    Edit post is here now too

    https://vger.to/lemmy.zip/post/48535484

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To be fair, my own granny died thinking I was still a card carrying Republican. Sometimes you don't tell Grandma you are a godless liberal. The old folks don't really need to know everything. Christmas gets kinda awkward if you do.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing

    No, he wrote Helldiver's 2 and groyper memes.

    Hey, fascist! Catch! ↑ → ↓↓↓

    Is for this: https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Eagle_500kg_Bomb

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    In the game where that code is from, you play as a human soldier fighting for a starship troopers-esque over the top obviously fascist but played for laughs Super Earth Government, and they routinely call the bug aliens fascist while calling in bombing runs on them.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    "Notices bulges OwO what's this?" is used within the groypers to make fun of furries, as well as when they are (ugh I hate that I'm about to say this word) "transvestigating", which is when they "investigate" whether someone is trans or not. Also see "If you read this, you are gay LMAO"

    Bella ciao is also used ironically within the groypers.

    If it was the only thing there... Sure. Its not though, its one of several things, which all have one very specific context - groypers.

    Context is always important.

    Edit: Forgot to add - with Helldivers 2, the joke is you've got fascists dropping bombs while saying they are dropping bombs on fascists. Again, a meme reference for groypers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Good question. I'll show you something then you decide or you want to dive into it further. It mostly far-right meme shit and doesn't make a lot of sense for outsiders.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • I'd like to raise a few points:

    1. Conservatives are media illiterate.
    2. Deeply online groypers live under 16 layers of irony at all times.
    3. Fascists love pretending that they're actually heroes fighting the real fascists who want to give people free bread. To a lot of Americans, communist and fascist are the same word.

    I can't tell you if bella ciao is a popular alt-right meme because I don't hang out with them, but I can tell you it's far from impossible.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Some Twitter guy has multiple awards for journalism, I'm inclined to give him some benefit. But I would like someone to provide an official statement.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Not to mention the stuff on the casings was specifically antifascist.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not really, the "hey fascist, catch" one is from helldiver's 2, where the satirical fascist human soldiers ironically call the bug aliens they fight fascists. The arrows are the code to call in an airstrike.

    This dude was putting his groyper memes on his bullets

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Most articles actually said the complete opposite of what this shitter post claims.

    Cox said: "The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU."

    There was a mention of how "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate".

    Most articles also say that one of the bullet casings had a "bella ciao" engraving which could be false flag but also could be real.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This isn’t the type of “action” the left-leaning population tends to take. Violence begets violence.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    are we seriously removing these types of comments and banning people for them here? most of us left reddit to escape this type of over bearing moderation and censorship. Not a good look at all.

    PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. (-- edit: i'm disgusted that people actually disagree with this sentiment. if you don't think you should be able to disagree with people here you should report this comment and moderation should fucking ban me because i dont want to be here.)

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