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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Seems unlikely that this happened. Most people on Lemmy despise Plex and forgive all the shortcomings of Jellyfin

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Thats what I thought too. But I posted on ask lemmy, not here.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What are the 3 biggest shortcomings of Jellyfin ?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

Well it's just generally buggy firstly. Glitchy UI for me especially for hours after I started scanning my media library.

Also it has no built-in system for connecting from somewhere outside your home. You have to manage that yourself.

Then there's the fact that it's got lots of security issues.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

What do you mean with glitching UI ? Is it more than just not responding while scanning ?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

I left the scan running for an hour or so, came back and it showed, maybe all, of my shows and seasons. However, on certain views, it would not list episodes that definitely exist. The page looked kind of broken. I thought "okay I'll give it more time". An hour or two later, same deal. Cleared browser cache multiple times. Nothing worked. Came back the next day and it was "fixed". But that experience felt pretty janky.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

I had something similar when I used XMBC (I think it's called kody now) and it seems it was because there was some confusion with the scrapper to imdb and it needed some manual override file. You had to create a .nfo file or something like that, that told the scrapper the right imdb number or other exact identifier for it. I wouldn't be surprised if the people at plex have some way to know of all the custom fixes people do and with that, when you have some issue recognizing some content, they can figure out what most people do.

I would be surprised if jellyfin has any way to to know what the users are doing so that wouldn't work

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

That's not what this was though, because it eventually fixed itself. I couldn't begin to diagnose the bug, but the way I have my stuff organized works in jellyfin, but something about it's scanner and/or database seems to have issues.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you didn't care, just wanted to downvote. Cool.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

I haven't installed jellyfin, I'm never installing plex, I would just use samba shares over vpn instead of that.
I wanted to know what's the problem with jellyfin ?
Is it more than the weekend-destroying linux-jankiness ?
Because I can deal with that

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

I listed three things. I didn't have the patience to suss out what might be wrong with it because Plex required no fiddling and afaik does not have any open security issues.

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[+] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People don't seem to understand that no-one can reasonably stop a breach today.
The question is whether the attackers got anything of value and how easy they got in.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

This breach was, in fact, very preventable. Plex didn’t need to force users to authenticate with a central server to access their own self-hosted media in the first place.

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[–] remon@ani.social 5 points 1 year ago

Even is plex is "bad" now ... it's still way ahead of jellyfin.

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[–] icylobster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Plex hasn't been getting better, but it still does what I need. I have a lifetime pass from years ago. If I was starting today I would be a lot less inclined to pay for Plex though. They keep adding things I don't want.

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 18 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

I'd love to switch. I would do it right now, but the problem is that Jellyfin's security isn't better if you open it up to the internet. For example, I'd have to set up a VPN for my remote users for proper security, and most of my users are in other states, not technically inclined, and watch on their TVs. I'd have to at least support a raspberry pi for them, or some sort of site to site VPN, and if it goes down, I'll be expected to fix it. On top of that, if I do a simple raspberry pi based VPN, it would be made even more complicated since they'd want it to work with their smart TVs.

Again, I really want to switch. But Jellyfin needs to fix their security issues before I can. I'm also happy with the way Plex is reporting this, it's above the standard "your data is lost" notifications.

Edit: here's a link to the related GitHub issue I've been following: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

And @Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com has a great thread explaining more: https://lemmy.today/comment/18923504

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My big complaint with Jellyfin is that their documentation showed a “fast forward” hotkey that convinced me to switch from Plex, and when I started it up it was a misnamed “jump forward five seconds” button instead.

It’s still better for my needs, but I remain angry.

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[–] bagodogs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jellyfin is great... As long as you're the only one who needs to access the server. I've switched to using Jellyfin myself, but I still run Plex for others to access.

I've found that I get a smoother playback experience on Jellyfin, but even outside of potential security issues, there are a still couple of features I miss from Plex.

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[–] Seefoo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

What are those features?

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[–] bagodogs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

One was automatic collections, but the plugin for this has since been updated, and the bug I was experiencing has been fixed. The one remaining feature that I'm missing is user ratings for media. On Plex I have automatic collections of movies that I've rated four and five stars, and it's quite useful.

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[–] exu@feditown.com 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of these require some form of random id to exploit, which leaves you either brute forcing ids or brute forcing a user account

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's fine, but it's still an issue and a risk that would cause me to want to use VPN for remote viewing. It doesn't seem like security is Jellyfin's priority at the moment, not that it's Plex's either, but it's not to a place where it's worth it to switch from a security standpoint, personally.

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[+] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

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[–] exu@feditown.com 0 points 1 year ago

I don't have an issue with Plex. I don't use it

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for that issues link. I keep trying jellyfin every now and then and I run into issues with general bugginess so I haven't been able to switch. Seeing that it's kinda full of security holes makes me even more reticent.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago

This is the same reason I haven’t switched. My parents use it to watch the local OTA channels and I have zero intention of supporting a site to site VPN on their home network and multiple mobile devices.