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[โ€“] 22 points 1 year ago (12 children)

What is desperately needed by all the open source navigation apps on Android is traffic info. You just can't plan a half decent route without it. Speed limits info is not enough to know the time a route will take. You need the actural average speed of the roads. Especially on old European roads.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But how to do that reliably and with up-to-date info if not invading the privacy of people?

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago

    Legally forced sharing from all platforms with onion routing and no ID? Government road data fed by all those cameras? Seams a solvable problem if done with privacy in mind not as yet another opportunity for mass surveillance.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    To be fair, we all did just fine before Waze existed.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nope. I was frequently late when using any number of open sat navs without traffic info. I end up reverting to close Waze or Google Maps.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it's hard to overstate what a big deal real-time traffic data was/is. And I have to wonder, how many traffic jams are prevented - or at least reduced - by it. How did we manage before Waze et al.? We were just late a lot more.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 1 year ago

    How did we manage before Waze et al.?

    I (and i suspect most people who cared to know) listened to a local radio station who reported on traffic during high (or abnormal) traffic periods of the day.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can people not scrape other platforms and train their AI openstreetmaps on publicly available information

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Doubt it. OSM doesn't allow contributors to rip from Google and alike, scraping would be included in that presumably. Google has the copyright here.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How would Google realistically prevent it from happening slowly organically from real people who happen to look it up

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago

    If incorrect data gets copied thats quite a good indicator that we are copying google.

    If it's one person, maybe google doesn't care, but frankly I think we should want to get the data in such a way that google doesn't even get to make a noise about it.

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