The AI.gov repository and staging site vanished when we asked questions, but don't worry – we captured backups

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[–] 57 points 1 year ago (15 children)

DB_PASS="postgres" 😬😬😬

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    so, uh... can you ELI5 this for those of us that don't know anything?

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The type of database they are using is called "postgres", which is also it's password.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Postgres, SQLite, etc are tools for database management, things like user data, application data and so on are collected here.

    Edit: the DB_PASS=“postgres” is the default password when setting up a Postgres database.

    Take Reddit’s Karma system or Upvotes/Downvotes for example, they’re stored in a database and however Reddit wants to utilize that data Postgres makes it easy to call upon it.

    I’m sure others can give more detailed responses, I’m typing this out in a rush.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Interesting that you chose Reddit as an example. They have a fascinating origin story with respect to data mart. Early Reddit had just two tables: Thing and Data, where Thing was metadata about types and Data was a three column table with: type, id, and value.

    Wrap your head around that. All of Reddit, two tables. A database couldn’t be less normalized (final boss of normal forms) and they did it in an rdb. So horrific it’s actually kind of cool.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Interesting that you chose Reddit as an example.

    I was in a rush! Honestly it was the quickest thing I could come up with on the spot, plus database tools are something I lack a lot of knowledge about so I really couldn’t go in depth even if I wanted to.

    Appreciate the history behind Reddit’s database!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The person you replied to doesn't know what they're talking about. It's just an example password used for running a local empty DB for development and has nothing to do with production or even test databases.

    You can see this in the readme: https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgsa-tts-archived%2Fai-gov-api

    See my longer previous comment if you want to know more. And again, not defending this project, but this whole comment chain was just misinformation.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean it is called ".env_example" afterall... Probably a env file to use for testing, no?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I'm really shocked by the confidence people have here with clearly zero knowledge.

    ".env_example" is literally just the example/template which is only updated if new "config" items are needed and it doesn't contain actual secrets.

    Developers copy ".env"/prod and ".env_local" files, which are used for the specific environments. These are in .gitignore so that they're not accidentally pushed to .git.

    For production the ".env" is generated during deployment from secrets in a locked up environment. (I mean they COULD fuck this up, but there's no evidence of this AFAIK)

    The example postgres password is simply a "hello world" type password that is often used when running a local docker image of the DB so you can get a full dev environment running in a couple minutes, as mentioned in the readme.md: https://github.com/gsa-tts-archived/ai-gov-api

    It's not even a testing environment, it's a temporary local/dev DB just so you can test your code.

    I am NOT defending this project, but holy shit this thread is full of misinformation and I had to correct this.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately no, it seems. Somebody at least had the bare minimum sense to let GitHub generate the .gitignore for them, which includes most common environment files. https://github.com/gsa-tts-archived/ai.gov/blob/main/.gitignore

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