The CEO of Proton is Pro-Trump and that's old news

Good points to think about. This is why I come to .ml, for informed heterodox(?) opinions I didn't expect!

Unfortunate disroot just had a major storage hardware issue and is down right now, potentially lost data for customers. So probably not them but agree with the rest.

What's the community consensus on it, though? IIRC, not so good?

TBF, I'm familiar with these IVPN events, but I'm open to learning new & updated facts, fo sho!

Webpages do not load and/or DNS leaks when connecting via NetworkManager

2023 vulnerability

Not to mention that Swiss laws on the matter are unlikely to change anytime soon, (ie. ironclad, in their constitution) whereas Gibraltar is a UK territory and isn't as reliable long-term in that regard —though they've successfully defended against suits before. So, yeah, for now. 🤷🏼‍♂️

IVPN is the only one I've found similar to Mullvad.

So, who's the alternative?

From what I hear Tuta is only barely reputable? Something about false cryptography. Services like mailbox and posteo don't have a free tier. The offerings overall seem to be so bad that gmail is beginning to look somewhat desirable by this point.

Not that it impacts much in the short term. Until a long-term viable alternative shows up, the best I can do is to continue using Proton's free tier so that I am at least somewhat a cents / nickels cost to them rather than a profit.

thanks for the info i had no idea

Proton has been sketchy for years. Like every 6 months the get dragged for unethical shit but somehow everyone is surprised each time

Lotta discussion about alternatives.

For email I recommend runbox.com. They just do email, that's it. worker owned, geothermal powered, based in Norway which has better privacy laws than EU and no ChatControl.

For all else, find a NextCloud provider -- there are tons. Even a couple of free ones.

Its not. Its to fire people who dont vibe code

re: tuta

One of the owners is a liberta anarch isolationist who donate to a right-wing anti-immigrant political party, pretty much single-handedly keeping it going, iirc. The company distanced themselves but did not apologize or say ‘fuck one of our owners’ so people are not sure what to make of it.
Don’t know what it has to do with AI though.

tutanota is good

Edit: I have learned that perhaps they are not.

Can recommend mailfence.com for email, calendar, addressbook.

Reasonably priced, publish yearly transparency reports, support email encryption, don't do bullshit add-ons, have shown to be stable about their principles throughout the years I've been their customer.

This is so vague we dont even know if it's a good thing

And donated the company's earnings heavily to pro-fascist movements.

Seconded. Still need to move the last bit of my mail to Mailbox.org. I'd also recommend Fastmail, Tutanota, Disroot, and Mailfence.

We’ve known about Proton for way longer then Mullvad. CEO has had TDS for a while now; the AI pivot is like the last 5 degrees of the heelturn. Same with Omarchy and Brave.

Ooh, ooh! Can I guess? Is it you?

And a VPN alt, too? 😅

i use posteo but wanted to switch to something else with more aliases but. it works there is no kontroversie... so 1€ per month is good.

I moved off of Proton to Mailbox.org maybe 6 months or so ago. No complaints. Much happier tbh.

one of the owners is a fascist

What happened with Mullvad?