GM started installing OnStar in some vehicles starting in the 1997 model year so they've had the ability since then.

Our car was 11 years old and needed a lot of work. We got rid of it for a 22 year old car that was in mint shape. So now no infotainment tracking or anything. 😛

Throttle cables on 50 year old vehicles work just fine.

No, they don't. They require regular maintenance, like very other mechanical part on your car. My 1980 Mercedes and equally old Honda motorcycle are both cable-controlled. The linkage in the Mercedes is all sorts of worn out, to the point I can't accelerate at full throttle anymore. And guess what? Mercedes doesn't make those parts anymore.

Several have had tps issues.

A Throttle Position Sensor, as you understand it, is not used on electronic throttle bodies. At all. Inside the throttle body, the stepper motor itself (which is not a potentiometer) feeds the position back to the ECU.

And good luck buying one when they stop making the exact model for your specific vehicle when the factory in China quits making them.

TPS sensors were often shared among several models in a lineup, sometimes carried to newer models, and even over different manufacturers at times. They're stupid simple to make and fix.

Nah. Electronic throttle bodies were implemented for emissions control.

LMAO, tell me you have no fucking clue what you're talking about without saying it. And I'm going to tell you exactly why you're a fucking moron:

It replaces a cable with an overly complex potentiometer with circuit board and wiring

1. A potentiometer is one of the simplest electronic components, nothing more than a carbon strip with terminals on each end and a wiper in the middle. Every EFI vehicle with a cable-operated throttle uses this in the throttle position sensor, or TPS. Those fail more often than electronic throttles.
2. An electronic throttle body doesn't use any sort of potentiometer, rather a far more precise component called a stepper motor. A stepper motor is little more than a geared-down servo (y'know, like what RC cars use), but with an extra bit inside called an encoder. That encoder is what feeds the throttle position back to the ECU. It also allows the ECU to command the throttle at specific positions based on engine load, for such things like cruise control.

Right off the bat, an electronic throttle has already superceded the oft-worn throttle cable linkage, throttle position sensor, idle air controller, and overly expensive cruise control modules.

that will fail and be irreplaceable 10 Years after the vehicle is Sold, rendering it unuseable.

My guy, you know what a JUNKYARD is? Car-part.com? Fucking christ dude, go outside sometime.

Every “improvement” on cars has been war on removing your ability to fix anything yourself or keep a car for life.

I don't necessarily disagree with this, but you're looking at it from the wrong angle. The existence of an electronic throttle body isn't your enemy. At this point, they have proven several times over to be far more reliable than the mechanical equivalent: cable actuated throttle + TPS + IAC + cruise control module.

Its all throwaway trash now made to stick you on a lifelong subscription while recording your every move (now with cameras inside too yay)

Newer stuff, sure. After that tech has already matured. But the main reason for electronic throttle bodies was actually for emissions compliance. Snapping the throttle closed after a hard acceleration event causes a spike in emissions output. An electronic throttle body essentially eliminates that, while still giving you pretty much the same experience.

Remember, “safety” and “protect the children” is how they take all your freedoms away. And it works because people are stupid.

That's a different problem. Seatbelts, airbags, safety glass, crumple zones, etc. have all been tested and studied extensively. Injuries have gone up with every safety advancement because those who would have been killed before are now able to walk away with scratches or bruises.

That is one of the primary reasons that I am interested in the Slate electric pickup in the U.S. No internet -- they do have an optional module that one can add if you really want the extra monitoring/controls that having a connected vehicle provides. Music/gps/etc is all via your own device. I don't know of any other modern vehicle in the U.S. I can get that has that option. (my 14 yr old car is getting to the stage where repairs are more than it is worth)

"Aye?" No, ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!

It's the newest vehicle we've owned. Zero connection to the manufacturer.

"I'm so sorry, I didn't read the context provided and made a stupid fucking answer" is what you should have said.

So you dont think cars made today (or from about 2016 ish to now) dont watch your every move

Please feel free to show me where I said that, because if anyone would fucking read what I actually quoted and responded to, they wouldn't look fucking stupid.

All my vehicles have a CD player lol. Its normal for me.

Tuahawk is equally delusional and/or astroturfing. Best to block them.

Daychilde must be working for an automaker or a government and trying to spread lies that "we are crazy and everything is all fine!" No one would get this upset if they were a normal privacy focused citizen not caring about automaker woes.

So you dont think cars made today (or from about 2016 ish to now) dont watch your every move and aren't remotely controllable from either the dealer or the government if they wanted to? It does not need to be a self driving car when your car has internet access, electric brakes steering and throttle and doors. It can all be controlled.

Like, theres many videos and articles testing and proving this and I'm not going to find them for you because its dead easy (someone posted some here already). Even a decade ago, Tesla locked a guys car down remotely thousands of miles away because he was installing some custom software on it and they didnt like that. What if that guy had a medical or other emergency and had to drive somewhere at that time? its not safe to allow cars to be remotely controlled and it sure as hell isn't good for privacy. Nowadays its much worse. Why are you so upset that people try to expose the corruption ? Are you an automaker?

Not about being special. Its about keeping our rights not to be surveilled. Not sure why you're licking boots.

Neither of those stop the function of power steering and are easily repairable. Electrics fail and there is no repair other than a $5000 replacement.

You clearly have never wrenched so you may as we be quiet about topics you dont know. Also youre probably older than me 😅 i just have a lot more mechanic experience than most.

Ok

Thanks for your sacrifice!

Well now that's an interesting one! It has been a long while since I last saw a CD player in a vehicle.

But there indeed do exist cars that do that, so, technically he's correct. There's other cars that don't have self driving but can be hacked and remotely disabled while driving, IIRC the video I watched like, 4y(?) ago was some random Jeep SUV, they shut it down while it was driving on the highway. The video cameras are also not super cool, there have been cases of Tesla employees using them to spy on people (who, iirc, were fucking in a Tesla), the computer in the dash (as well as the cameras) are reporting your driving habits (selling your data) to your insurance companies so they can raise your rates, Ford (iirc) recently patented a driver facing camera that "detects if you're drunk or agitated" which, of course drunk driving is bad, but that's too invasive of a measure for me, personally.

And as self driving mode becomes more prevalent, that means it will be more models that actually can do the exact phrasing you're picking apart, he's still not wrong, he's just a little early on that one part.

It really is a significant issue, and only getting worse.

You dont think electric door locks can be locked remotely ?

Go back and read the bit I DID quote and compare it to the bits I did NOT quote and maybe you will have a fucking clue.

Jesus christ.

By that logic than no solutions to any bullshit people don't want to deal with shouldn't be shared cause the government/company can just patch it. If it was so easy to patch these bypasses then why do ad blockers still exist and work?

Tools like these are always a cat and mouse game and open sourcing it gives you more resources than you can ever hope to have yourself.