I have my end mirror under the handlebars, not above. My visibility is a lot better, rather than looking at my own elbow, and with it under the bar, it gets bumped a lot less.

I'm in a very car-centric city (Phoenix, AZ) but I use a cargo bike all the time, probably 90% of my local trips. I can't count how many times someone in a car has done something to make my life a little easier, giving me a bit more space for example or waving me through so I don't have to stop. There's lots of bike hater stories out there, but it's almost never been like that for me.

And on the other side, I let people know they have a tail/brake light out, all the time. Once you start noticing it, there's a LOT of them.

Good deal and I totally understand especially nowadays.

Did you end up with something?

And of course I just noticed that I resurrected a dead thread. Oh well, maybe it'll be helpful to someone.

A used Aventon abound would cover most of that. I paid about $2K for mine new a couple years ago, so used should be at least in the ballpark. I have about 3000 miles on mine now.

Top speed about 24mph with current firmware, but you also have to replace the freewheel, the stock one is 14T which isn't small enough, the drift maniac freewheel on Amazon is 11T and direct replacement.

I have panniers plus the front rack, I regularly do the grocery run with it.

Not class 3, but class 2+, it's throttle will go to 20mph but with the freewheel you can pedal faster, I regularly do. With lights and such I tend to average around 19mph.

Plenty of torque for a trailer, I have one that's rated to 100lbs capacity. I've overloaded it to 120 (3 40lb bags of salt) plus groceries in the panniers. I've probably carried 200lbs between the bike and trailer. Not at 24mph tho ;)

Removable battery, with just me at about 200lbs dressed at top speed I get about 30 miles of range, but I don't push it that far.

Standard lower end bike parts, like anything else you'll find in this price range. Shimano Altus derailleur.

Handlebar folds down, but it's a big bike, 20" cargo style. Somewhere around 100lbs with racks and panniers.

We need wireless rim brakes.

I want to repost this but make the title

Paths of 800 unsuspecting bicyclists being pushed until they fall over

I love that these are priced to get people into this hobby. I've seen a couple guys out on the Aventon version (ramblas?) where I regularly ride.