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[–] 34 points 4 months ago

Ohhh i loathe people like this. They muddy the waters on bad parenting so hard.

When you've got ... kids jumping in the pool

This is called being a child. It is normal. The world does not cater to you exclusively, sit the fuck down. You are making it harder for the rest of us to get bad parents to stop letting their kids eat paint in bunnings

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Random Woman Has Random Opinion: More at 11!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Rage bait.

    This woman will cop plenty of hate on social media.

    How daft do you need to be to say these things to the media and let them use your name and photo?

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This is a stupid take. The problem is only parents who aren't teaching their kids properly.

    A bit of noise from some slightly rowdy children is not a big deal.

    Let's not further isolate our society. Parents should feel free to bring their kids along places so they can still socialise.

    I say this as someone without children.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    It’s completely fine to ask for some spaces to be adults only and no children.

    Honestly some kids are annoying shits and I reckon parents would probably appreciate those spaces when the grandparents or others are looking after their own.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Let’s not further isolate our society. Parents should feel free to bring their kids along places so they can still socialise.

    Totally agree. And it's not that difficult to find quiet places. I'd like to see more kids out and about be safe and playing, laughing, screaming, whatever, or meeting other people in the company of their parents so they learn about community and communication. So many kids are cooped up with their parents and with gadgets indoors day in and day out.

    it's like we want to warehouse the old, warehouse the kids and warehouse precious adults. This is no way to have a healthy community.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There’s a café in Berlin named The Barn which has this philosophy: the doorway has a bollard in the middle to impede the entry of prams.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I guess these people can start their own non family friendly businesses and see how that goes for them?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Who is ready to see the horrific downfall of the country due to crashing birth rates, like South Korea will be demonstrating for us over the next few decades?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It would be nice to have adult only public transport. When I first had to regularly use public transport I thought the high schoolers were noisy shits. Jesus now I use a route that a mob of the younger ones use. The parents are there but they just watch the chaos.

    Grrrrrr, get off my lawn, and ferry.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Public transport is one of the only ways teenagers (among many other vulnerable groups) can get some independence in a very car-centric society. You'd be fighting an uphill battle trying convince people to exclude kids from the public transport system.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    I don't think there needs to be a conflict in public with child and not child places, honestly. also I grew up in NV and CA, pretty much everywhere used to be less child friendly in public when I was a kid. you can walk kids through a casino now, they used to really physically stop you in the 80s-90s

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    She also cited multiple flights where a child screamed "its head off".

    "If I did the same thing, I'd be kicked out of somewhere.

    1. Headphones
    2. What?? No shit genious. How unfair for you.
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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    Shhhhhhhhhhhh, Tanya!

    You will alert the breeders to the secret quiet places!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    No one is trying to trap her into motherhood, give me a break.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What's wrong with having some spaces for adults to enjoy the company of other adults without someone's semen demon around?

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    We have a declining population that needs more births and here we have hedonists making the world less kid friendly.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The issue is more births or more migration or both. Otherwise we have declining population which is totally incompatible with capitalism.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    Because we all need help as we get older. Whether it's cleaning solar panels or showering, we all need some level of help.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Because we all need help as we get older.

    Yes, we do. Why do we need more births for that?

    There are still plenty of people being born, and growing up and entering the work force as adults. We (i.e. society, i.e. whoever holds the purse strings) can offer better pay and better job conditions for those workers, so that it's a more appealing career for the people who will already be looking for jobs.

    Better help for the people who will be born anyway. Not pushing for more births.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Who is performing the help? We don't have enough people now that want to help. Go to any nursing home and see that we need to import the help. If we want to continue that way then we need to grow. Either people are born here or we import births from other countries. Either way the births have to happen.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    We don’t have enough people now that want to help. Go to any nursing home and see that we need to import the help.

    Don't want to help? At the pay rates and job conditions on offer, that's right.

    An obvious solution is to raise the offered pay (by whatever means; the government can certainly afford to subsidise this) and improve the job conditions (by regulation enforcing proper treatment of workers).

    There are plenty of people already here willing to work, if the work is properly remunerated and stable and dignified. If the job is worth doing – as we both agree it is – then let's show that, by making it feasible for plenty of people to have a dignified life doing that work.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I hear you but with the privatised system that has been handed to us the whole system goes to the lowest bidder. Unfortunately most people want to pay as little as possible so hospitality and caring roles are in a race to the bottom.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    The average worker is several times more productive than they were 100 years ago and women have entered as well. If we don't have enough workers, that's evidence the value isn't going where it should.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    Half the shit inmyour house didn't exist 100 years ago. The things we need/want in our lives now take more effort to design and build. Go move in with the Amish if you want the 100 years ago life

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    choosing not to have kids

    There's also the people who wanted to have kids, but weren't able to due to medical/fertility problems. The article mentions "fertility intentions" briefly, but doesn't really explore the psychology of it.

    Much as people who are childfree by choice may be irritated by kids, for those who are "childfree by circumstance" it can be painful to put up with other people's when you can't have your own.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago

    Pity her mother didn't feel the same way.

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