European Union officials have confirmed that China provided military training to hundreds of Russian soldiers who were subsequently deployed to participate in Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

During a briefing in Brussels on June 12, a high-ranking EU representative stated that intelligence services have gathered clear evidence of this training. Training took place across multiple locations within Chinese territory, according to Deutsche Welle.

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On June 15, EU foreign ministers are scheduled to meet in Luxembourg to address this development. The agenda includes a broader discussion on relations with China, focusing on security and foreign policy. Ministers will also examine the European defense industry's reliance on Chinese supply chains and potential strategies to mitigate those dependencies.

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Previous reports from various international sources have suggested that these training programs, which allegedly occurred in late 2025, utilized six military bases in China.

These programs were reportedly focused on the operation of drone systems, electronic warfare tactics, and advanced battlefield simulations. Some of the soldiers involved were reportedly linked to elite Russian drone units that have been active in the front-line regions of Ukraine.

At the same time, Russia launched a three-day exercise involving its nuclear forces on May 19, mobilizing around 64,000 troops and 7,800 units of military equipment just hours before Russian leader Vladimir Putin departed for a two-day trip to China.

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[–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

China helping an aggressor country will give itself a huge black mark across the world, especially since they are helping blatant war criminals. This will cost them.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    it will only cost them because China is already seen as the "bad guys" (not saying they aren't, just saying what public opinion seemst to be)… I mean, the USA is literally funding, training and protecting Israel and nobody seems to care… how is that any different in terms of "especially since they are helping blatant war criminals"?

    What will make China look bad is how ineffective their training seemed to have been

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Aaaand you haven't noticed how the US is quickly going in the direction of being treated as a bad actor? Yeah, late, I'm sure, but at least they're acting now

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Aaaand you haven't noticed how the US is quickly going in the direction of being treated as a bad actor?

    yes well deserved and long overdue

    Yeah, late, I'm sure, but at least they're acting now

    Who is acting? not sure what you man by this

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Fuck every army in the world

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    [–] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It doesn't say much for Chinese military training.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    They were training them on chinese drones and gear no doubt.

    Russia shouldn't need chinese gear at all, the fact that with all of their money and industrialization they can't even run their own war machine and instead use foreign arms manufacturers and themselves repurpose consumer goods for military purposes shows just how far they have fallen.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    well good news about all this if China did indeed train Russia for this "3 day operation" guess we don't have to worry about China much either.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Ok.....but what if China wants Russia to lose in a future war agsinst China? So they trsined them poorly on purpose.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    As someone with family and heritage from Myanmar: China is 100% absolutely a capitalistic fascist state.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago*

    Look up rubber cultivation in Myanmar and jade mines and get back to me. Hell, look up the ongoing civil war that's happening there and ask yourself who's behind the military government killing the people fighting for liberation. Britain, America, Russia, China... It's all the same old song, just maybe with a faster tempo this time.

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  • [+] -52 points 4 months ago (15 children)
  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think "fascism" describes modern Russia quite well:

    Fascism : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

    Putin is essentially a dictator who keeps giving himself more time in office. Russians can't elect another leader because Russian "elections" are rigged. And in Russia you will be punished if you vocally disagree with the government: protestors who have voiced opposition to the invasion of Ukraine have been arrested, and in some cases imprisoned for long periods of time. And then there's the fact that Alexei Navalny, an opposition politician who disagreed with the Russian government, was poisoned by the Russian government twice: once in 2020, and again in 2024.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Not bad, but why not straight from the source.

    Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power - Mussolini

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    That is a pretty good list of descriptors. I think the defining feature of modern fascism is it uses whatever rhetoric it can to gain and keep power. I believe the primary way to measure is wealth distribution. If you see an ever increasing wealth gap it should be raising immediate alarm bells.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    This account looks like it’s a Russian bot, looking from its history of comments. I banned and recommended it to others.

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  • [+] -20 points 4 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, look them up. Wikipedia is a good start I hear.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    What is with all of the anger conservatives have against liberals? My own theory is the anger comes from sexual repression. We all know conservative girls don't fuck, and when they do it's with their husbands in missionary position with the lights turned off.

    So conservative men either aren't getting it or go and get their bit of strange from grindr.

    Which type of conservative are you?

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    How do you know and do you always speak for them? A quick look at their comments and they seem to be obsessed with liberals, this suggests a more conservative mindset. If you have any further glimpses into the psyche of this angry commenter I would be interested to hear them.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Do you know what a liberal is?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yes, it has several meanings depending on the context. Used in the derogatory manner the other commenter used it in is nowadays typically reserved for American political discourse referring to social liberals. It can be used in the economic sense too but in general discourse this would not be the common modern interpretation of calling someone a liberal, Adam Smith has not been around for 100s of years now and terms change.

    You appear to understand what the word means but you don't understand how the word is used. I am sure you are not a native English speaker or do not speak the language at a high level.

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  • [+] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    You are not a socialist, I can see your comment history genius. All I can see is Russian bootlicking, Russia is the furthest thing possible from a socialist state. You can call yourself a tankie if you like, big difference but a more fitting label for your sort.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I wouldn't say they are the furthest it gets, since they have some things like free healthcare and education, some social benefits, and maybe even more that can be considered socialistic elements. They still do fit pretty bad into what socialism should be

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    [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I’d like to remind people that you can block users on an instance level. F.ex. I’ve blocked lemmy.ml and consequently see a lot less poorly coherent disingenuous russia/china simping commentary.

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  • [+] -14 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    It's a nothingburger. The West already supports Ukraine in evey way, so it's obvious China does similar to Russia except short of overtly selling arms and more loans to Kremlin because the Beijing is afraid of secondary sanctions. 90% of all Chinese banks did not want to loan to Russia because of this. Training Russians has less consequences for China.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    China is training Russian troops to fight against EU interests in Ukraine while claiming to be neutral and in support of peace. China's direct support in this manner is prolonging the war costing Ukrainian lives and making the war more expensive for the EU. China are now proven to be lying about a serious situation damaging their ongoing credibility.

    China has done what they have done secretly because they, as you suggested fear secondary sanctions. China is now more dependent than ever on trade with the EU as trade with the USA decreases as a result of American foreign policy. The EU needs to hit China hard where it hurts, China has a massive national debt and internal debt and while they can possibly keep fighting the USA in a trade war no way can they fight a trade war with the EU concurrently.

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  • [+] -54 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    @Sepia And the UK trained Ukrainian troops, so what? The real news is that neither side are working toward peace and an end to war. Neither side is different in any way.

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  • [–] [M] 33 points 4 months ago

    This is factually inaccurate. Ukraine has made several overtures for peace that russia has declined for imperialist reasons. Also, Ukraine has democratically declared their disinterest in becoming a russian vassal as evidenced by their ouster of the pro-russian government, which precipitated this whole thing. Freedom is more important than peace, particularly when all that needs to be done to obtain peace is for russia to withdraw to their pre 2014 borders and cut the shit. Cries for peace at all cost are cries for capitulation, and consequently, pro-invader garbage.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    The French were just as much at fault as the Germans when they got invaded in 1940 by your logic.

    Or was it the UK's fault because they didn't accept Hitler's offer of peace after the fall of France?

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago

    Well France had the means to stop them, and the former allies in general went way too soft on Germany after ww1, allowing what happened, to happen.

    Czechoslovakia would be a better fit here

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  • [–] [S] 38 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    This is an extraordinarily disgusting comment as you probably know yourself as Russia is the aggressor in this war.

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  • [+] -39 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    @Sepia Western propaganda says that Russia is the aggressor and eastern propaganda says the west is. When the country descended into civil war due to a violent coup each side blames the other. That is normal and the opposite of working toward peace. Wave your flag all you like but to me you look disgusting as you stand on the bodies of others. You should learn the actual history of what happened before you attack.

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    @Sepia Who created the armies within Ukraine that were focused on war? It was not the Ukrainian people as they wanted peace. It would have taken a lot of money to create Azov, Sich and Right Sector. Then again if you wish to continue being simplistic you could say Azov, Sich and Right Sector. Or you could forget about the start and move on 8 years and blame Russia.

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    @Seppo Ohh, come on. If you are going to descend into childish abuse I am sure you can do better than that. How about "Kremlin bot"? I see it as you that is uneducated given you lack the ability to look at the situation objectively and would rather thousands of people die and a whole country is destroyed. If people only follow the propaganda they only go to war. I am opposed to war.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They say opinions can't be wrong, since they're opinions. Well, yours is the exception to the rule. Your opinion is factually wrong.

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  • [+] -18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    @Lost_My_Mind OK, I accept that yours was simply another poor attempt at abuse but lets try debate. Forget that I want peace and imagine that I accept that war is the only way. If we do have an all out war with Russia that involves Ukraine as the main battlefield, how would that help Ukraine? China, Iran etc. would take Russia's side which would mean arms exchanges in either direction. How do you believe we would survive? Even if you manage to murder enough people to claim a victory what state would Europe be left in? Do you honestly see it as worth the mass murder and destruction on both economic and infrastructure? Why is peace such a bad option? Remember, Russia only wanted a referendum. Russia wanted democracy yet Boris Johnson wanted war. The people of Ukraine voted for Zelenskyy because he stood on a platform of avoiding the war that everyone could see coming. It was not Russia or Ukraine that wanted this war. What do we gain? I walked through the streets of east London 15 years after WWII and the rubble had been cleared and there was just miles of roads with no buildings. Winning is not as great as it sounds. It took decades to rebuild Europe. To make me see differently you need to convince me that war is worth it. You need to tell me how war is better than democracy. We had the debate over Northern Ireland where there were two entrenched sides at war and it was US President Clinton that said that the UK should allow the IRA to run in the election. The UK said that they would never surrender to terrorists etc. (after having handed part of Palestine to Irgun) but eventually the IRA formed Sein Fein and were allowed to take part in the elections. They got 2% of the vote and the IRA crept away into the shadows. Peace works. The Ukrainian people want it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    We had the debate over Northern Ireland where there were two entrenched sides at war and it was US President Clinton that said that the UK should allow the IRA to run in the election. The UK said that they would never surrender to terrorists etc. (after having handed part of Palestine to Irgun) but eventually the IRA formed Sein Fein and were allowed to take part in the elections. They got 2% of the vote and the IRA crept away into the shadows.

    The absolute ignorance you have of the history of the conflict in Northern Ireland is mind boggling. I have never seen so much incorrect BS in such a short passage of writing in my life, take a bow son, truly impressive failure!

    Not surprising you get fairly easy to verify historic facts so wrong given your crazy take on how we got to where we are in the Ukrainian war.

    I walked through the streets of east London 15 years after WWII and the rubble had been cleared and there was just miles of roads with no buildings. Winning is not as great as it sounds. It took decades to rebuild Europe. To make me see differently you need to convince me that war is worth it.

    It sounds like you are trying to say it was not worth it for Britain to fight against Hitler and Nazi Germany. That is a bold take. As long as the Ukrainian people want to fight Putin and his imperial land grab I will support them.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    They are very different in many ways, but this specific thing is the same and not really newsworthy.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    I mean, I would argue that providing training to troops that are defending their own country from invasion is still very different than providing training to the aggresors of said conflict.

    I think this is just China setting up the expectation for reciprocal support if China gets into an armed conflict over Taiwan.

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