To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
According to leaks to Iranian media the draft includes a reconstruction which will result in Tehran receiving $300 billion to rebuild its cities. Also included will be the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian funds, half of which must be paid to Iran before fresh talks start.
Damn, that's an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.
is benny boy happy hes not getting that aid.
Are Americans happy they've been put in a position their leadership has to pay either instead of your hospitals? or school funding? or, god forbid, housing and food security for your multitudes of poor?
Very dishonorable people to deal with.
Pot, meet kettle.
American here. I haven't heard the claims, but they're likely true if Trump is upset.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
Yeah, there's these things called the Epstein files. They're pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what's in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they're also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
I heard some of those raped kids ended up dead. Some beaten. All raped. https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qtyb43/epstein_and_maxwell_buried_2_girls_strangled_to/
Court testimony was that some of them ended up beaten due to trump not liking them during sex. One bit him so he pulled her hair and punched her in the face. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/doj-releases-epstein-files-containing-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump
2 died from "rough sex" by testimony of one worker at zoro ranch. Dug up graves were found when they looked for bodies.
Also, there were hundreds of rape victims, and about 22 have died publicly since the story broke. And trump still walks free.
they just want to make sure their victims don't have more balls than they do.
lol that fuckin strait ain't opening this year, is it
say bye bye to economic growth by next month
Iran will keep it closed until after the elections. They understand exactly how poisonous this is to Trump, and how it will affect MAGA in the election. Keeping the Strait closed hurts Trump and MAGA more than all the missiles in their arsenal, and they have to do almost nothing to maintain it for as long as they feel like it.
If Trump tries to throw a few missiles, they'll just retaliate by bombing our shitty friends (but not Saudi Arabia, never the Saudis), who will then get madder at US.
Why doesn't Iran attack KSA, apart from a few US bases? I thought they were the main rival in the region, and given the extent that the US and Israel have already been attacking them I don't see much risk of escalation
They don't need to. They're winning, and widening the conflict now can only hurt them. All Iran has to do is sit tight, lob a missile at the strait every now and then, and wait for the US to fold. They've found the perfect strategy for this situation and opponent.
You guessed right my friend. If I was the supreme leader, I’d definitely try and hit at Trump’s political influence. A lame duck president would probably ensure a more lasting peace.
Here's some hopium for us all: Considering how little the average person has benefited from economic growth, that might not be so bad.
Especially if it hastens our independence from fossil fuels (which, in a sane world, events like this absolutely should).
That is a wild thought. I saw something that said the top ten percent of the economy is the only sector of the economy showing any movement. Essentially that 90% of Americans have zero economic power.
Your observation kinda lines up with that. It would also make "I love the inflation" make sense. The capital class is doing good.
You don't benefit from economic growth, but you damn sure will get fired if we have another once in a life time recession. Don't worry though, bailouts for the brave companies firings workers.
Haha no no, you don't understand. When there is growth the profits are privatized; when there is a collapse, the losses are socialized.
Nah you'll just get more coal
So this technically means that Iran won, right?
If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they're consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.
No, its not victory, its just them getting whatever they want and us giving it to them in order to make the killing stop.
Trump doesn't give a shit about the killing, what he want is for the oil prices to go down again.
But he can only achieve that by accepting that he lost, and that's the part he doesn't like.
For Trump it's always about winning, he can't stand to look like a loser. If he can make it look like a win, and get the oil prices down, then he will accept a deal. But it's very hard to see what such a deal could be?
The killing isn't going well for him, makes him look weak. He cares. Oil prices aren't coming down before the election. One of the first things Iran's current regime on the world stage did was ratfuck a US president by pulling some shit like this. They are aware.
I wouldn't consider it a win if they get paid merely the damages caused - they did lose lives after all. But also, if true, Magastan didn't win anything.
considering they dint have any major losess despite all those airstrikes.
So Obama merely released Iran's own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he's going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?
He won't be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.
He won’t be able to rationalize these concessions
As if his supporters needed any "rationalization".
No, they're cool with it, but they have to have a story that everyone sticks to, no matter how outlandish.
For example:
We need everyone to verify their age and identity on the Internet, so that children will never learn what human genitalia look like, NOT because they want to track our every move, and identify every single statement we post on the Internet.
The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn't.
This deal won't hold even if it's reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won't end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.
This will go on forever, peace deal or no.
Until conservatives lose control of the US.
Don't be so sure. Trump has tipped the US's hand and shown them to be weak as piss. It's going to be pretty hard to walk back from here now since Trump has ruined all the soft power the US had around the world, and now we all know the military aren't up to the task either the US will no longer hold a position of power at the negotiating table. Trump has completely and utterly fucked the US globally.
Can you imagine Iran embarrassing the US weekly in the 1970s? They wouldn't have dared. But now most of the world is laughing with them as we watch Trump shart himself to death.
The Fart of the Meal
It is impossible to verify the draft agreement, which the Mirror has been given, because it could be a Tehran bid to combat the lies about settlements uttered by Trump.
Even the mirror is calling all sides as lacking credibility, fucking hell if that's not an indication of how fucked this whole situation is...
Deal implodes Monday and Bessent makes a few million. Tune in next week for more market manipulation!
Iran should make him call it the “Obama best ever president peace deal”. I’d be willing to hold out for that but also I don’t buy gas.
Haha he's so used to his deals being unknown so he probably can't accept one less than Obama's previous deal since itll be public. Hard to spin the cash they're giving them when numbers are known.
This is your bed you lay in it, unfortunately a position Trump will never accept. Mean hopefully he does for everyone else but that alone means nothing for Trump....the great deal maker, the bastion of making a deal, apparently he made an art of it or something by being the best bullshitter.
The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.
Iran will never accept those terms today. That ship sailed when USA attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations.
And now Iran has found out their negotiation position is way better than they thought before Israel ans USA attacked them.
It does largely appear to be their ballgame, but the US seems quite content to utterly collapse states in the Middle East lately.
Yes, this is an absolute shitshow, and USA is probably the biggest loser in all of this. Not Trump, he is raking in money on insider trading and corruption, but USA and average Americans are losing a lot of money on higher oil prices.
Dissonance has never been an issue for the American right, but it's going to be harder for Iran or Israel to accept that.
The thing I wanna know is how many israeli's are doing the Anne Frank thing with palestinian families. You know: hiding them in the basement and feeding them.
Probably not too many since the Israeli army is invading its neighbours....not too many Israelis live in Lebanon , yet
they only do it if the palestinian is a child. and they only do it because in israel, it's neither pedophilia or rape, to rape a palestinian child.
Ani said it best,
“Get our government to pull its big dick out of the sand
Of someone else's desert
Put it back in its pants
And quit the hypocritical chants of
Freedom forever”
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