Seriously. Not dystopian science fiction or a new novel by an AI version of George Orwell. Actual corporations — what America’s first Supreme Court Justice, John Marshall, in 1819 called “an artificial being, invisible, intangible, and existing only in contemplation of law” — are today voting in elections for everything from the mayor and town council to referendums on corporate taxes and limits on corporate behavior.

What could possibly go wrong?

There are, after all, more corporations than people in Delaware. They can now decide who’s going to run the government, what the laws are, and — through their votes to elect humans who’ll take corporate money to do what corporations want (something else that corrupt Republicans on the Supreme Court legalized) — even what regulations companies must follow and what limits there are on their behavior.

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[–] 34 points 5 months ago

Yes, Delaware. You’re insane.

Also fuck Citizens United, which this is a logical consequence of.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Wait… does that mean if I spin up 5 million LLCs in Delaware, I get 5,000,001 votes?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, in one particular town, if you also buy a piece of property for each LLC.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    I like Thom Hartmann, but there's a difference between a court for one tiny town saying corporations can vote in municipal elections in that one town and "ZOMG! Corporations can vote in Delaware!"

    Some significant problems:

    1. You have to be 18 to vote, if "corporations are people", wouldn't that eliminate any corporation founded in the last 17 years?

    2. How would "a corporation" register to vote in the first place?

    3. How would "a corporation" cast a vote?

    If it falls to the CEO to register and vote for the company, how is that not double voting?

    If the CEO is not a resident of that town, how is that a legal vote?

    Too many flaws in this story that Hartmann fails to address...

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    "The Galactic Senate now recognizes the representative of the Trade Federation..."

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    And given that it is Delaware, there will be a lot of businesses. Most of them the size of a letterbox, but usually with amazing profits or owning lots of stuff for some reason...

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Are actual humans allowed to post or comment on Politics?

    Edit: Thank you for giving me back my right to free speech..

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    https://youtu.be/Lh2TgokrDfw

    Leeja will explain how this is always been this way for long time.

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    In a few weeks, my next book will be coming out, “Who Killed the American Dream: The Greatest Political Crime Ever Told,” and the timing couldn’t be more synchronous.

    Not for nothing, but this whole article reads like an ad for their book.

    Not that this isn't a problem, obviously, but it's also a new ruling that seems pretty likely to get thrown out on appeal. I don't think this is worth getting hysterical over.

    It's also not all elections. It's limited to municipal votes where businesses own brick and mortar. The actual case is a town that's basically all businesses with few residents, as far as I can tell, and the ruling allows businesses to vote on town business only, as it effects them as well.

    That said, I agree it's a bad ruling. And I agree that it should be overturned (as I think it will.) But to imply that this allows someone to spin up 100k LLCs and rig the vote for Donal Trump or something is a willful misreading of the ruling.

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  • Yes, yes we are.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago
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    Who decides what the corporation votes for?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Yes but we're just now noticing it.

    At least a couple people are.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    How many shell companies registered in Delaware do you need to throw an electric?

    Delaware? That's shell company paradise.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago