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[–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I am curious. NY is golden now, but how do working or poor people in US people view this outside of NY? Surely the same as the rest of the planet (hugely impressed)

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    It's going to depend on where they get their news from. If they primarily get their news from Fox News (the largest us TV channel), Facebook influencers/memes or other republican propaganda channels, then they will probably view Mamdani negatively. Pushing false narratives is how they've convinced people to vote against their own interests. With Mamdani being an actually successful actor of change, he's probably a prime target of those false narratives.

    The 5 latest Fox News headlines concerning Mamdani:
    Ex-MLB pitcher Noah Syndergaard blasts Zohran Mamdani as Mets dysfunction reflects New York chaos;
    This is going to ‘become a way of life,' NYC councilwoman warns;
    Gov Abbott extends off-ramp for NY billionaires fleeing Mamdani's policies;
    Kevin O'Leary: Mamdani is the best real estate agent for Miami Beach;
    GOP lawmaker warns New York will ‘suffer greatly’ under Mamdani’s policies.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I am curious. If NY truly did make this impressive turn-around, why aren't all other cities lining up for a "how to Mamdani your city"? Probably the man himself is not interested or capable of "marketing" his success but surely the rest of the country's management (in saner times, I'd even include the government) should be absolutely screaming for this?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    If democracy was the will of the majority, it would be surprising that everyone isn't clamoring to implement the same strategies, however cui bono; who profits? The source of every dismissal and complaint and backlash are the profiteering wealthy that see socialist policies as taking away their unearned lordship status. They fear this deeply and that's why they are so, so vocal and blanketing in the messaging.

    You can prove the propoganda machine works by asking any maga if they'd support the funding for teachers, the funding for childcare, etc without naming Mamdani, Democrats, or socialism. They all (mostly, some are genuinely fucking evil) see the human benefit of policies like these, they're just indoctrinated against the left to the point of blindness and self-sabotage.

    This concludes my armchair political assessment of US psychology

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    [–] 50 points 5 months ago

    Weird, I don't see the city burning down and people "leaving in droves" like all these red hat backwoods real tree wearing Bubbas from Tennessee were claiming was going to happen by now.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    Fiscal conservatives are celebrating everywhere, right?

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    Should see the look on my family’s face when they complain about some progressive thing somebody does or I say we should do; and they’re like “that’s communism!”

    And. I’m either like “So?” or like “If it means people have housing and food, I’m okay with that.”

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    🤷‍♀️ it’s a nice change of pace from the zillion “democrats just as bad” posts we usually get.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    can someone who knows about this stuff tell me how bad some of the impact of what was cut will be

    I definitely think states should be running a balanced budget and he inherited this debt but some of the cuts like not covering retirements? seems real bad

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I really hate this narrative. Instead of taxing the rich like he said he would, he ended up just being given billions from the state…

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    What is this pied a terre tax if not a tax on the rich?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's true that there are about $500 million dollars that will come from a pied-à-terre tax on second homes, which effectively is a tax on the rich.

    It's also true that billions of dollars (i.e. considerably more than $500 million) come from deferring pension fund payments, which is generally a bad thing that kicks the can down the road and is not what Mamdani campaigned on.

    He campaigned on things like corporate tax hikes and additional taxes on the rich far beyond the pied-à-terre tax. To date, these have not materialized.

    I like the guy, and I hope he starts actually doing the things, but we need to hold politicians accountable when they don't do what they said they would do. If he weren't a socialist, he wouldn't be getting a pass here.

    He's got plenty of time to turn it around, but as it stands, I don't find it controversial to say the reporting on this budget has been a bit more spin than win.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    2 out of the 12 was from deferring pension payments, and the suggested plans to deal with it from other’s was to rely completely on pension deferment.

    It’s not good to have pension deferments, but this is legitimately the least bad option given what was possible short term.

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