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[–] 120 points 5 months ago (6 children)

She's a Real Estate VP. Out of touch by default.

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  • [–] 60 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Who chose a real estate VP for commencement speaker in the first place. That's the peraon we should be calling out of touch.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's Florida, her company probably donated a ton to MAGA.

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    I had to watch the video. She looks so confused when they start booing. She tries laughing it off, says something else to tout AI and is booed again. Completely tone deaf.

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  • [–] [S] 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    She gets booed, regroups, then says "two years ago AI wasn't a part of our lives" and then gets cheered for it 🤣

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    Given the joyful Industrial Revolution comparison, we’re wondering whether the real estate VP is familiar with the history of the term “Dickensian.”

    They are, and have been rapidly re-creating it.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago

    I thought the background was baked beans

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  • [–] 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    She tried to justify AI by citing the success of the Internet? The Internet was not created for the express purpose of replacing workers.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago

    And in contrast to the avalanche of slop we are currently enduring, the pre-commercialization era of Internet was wild, in a fun way. Yes, we had slop back then too, but it was naïve, gorgeous, hand-crafted slop.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Importantly, the dot-com reaction ranged from "wow this is cool and revolutionary" to, at worst, "ehh.. I don't get it, seems pointless?" No one would have booed someone for praising the good old "information superhighway" back in the day, but many might have scoffed.

    For the GenAI, people just actively despise it. It amplifies slop-happy humans to insane degrees, the infrastructure build-out strains local grids and water. Even as a community comes out to say in unison they don't want a datacenter, somehow community governments green light it anyway, over their objections. And so many people are swearing up and down it'll get rid of jobs.

    For a new graduate from an Arts and Humanities college especially.... There's like zero reason to cheer and only reason to boo.

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The number of competent experts who are impressed by an LLM wielded in their specified field, is as vanishingly infinitesimal as legitimate and justifiable invocations of the term ‘AI’.

    Those who have expressed the greatest enthusiasm for ‘AI’ are typically the farthest removed from actual, nuanced comprehension.

    It’s a grift economy built on statistically luke-warm, vibe lobotomised corpses.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Problem is the targe is not the competent experts, but the managers of the competent experts, who have basically eternally been inherently skeptical of those experts and looking for the flimsiest hope to discard them.

    Many of the best and most important people let themselves be subordinate to some idiots.

    Not pertinent to AI, but just had one of these 'leaders' laying out how some project was going to go and why we didn't even need to bother with any contingencies and that folks would be wasting their time. Every one with a whiff of experience knows these projects don't go as described 90% of the time, and prepping the usual contingencies is less than an hour as long as you just plan to do it in advance. However, the very expensive partner service says they have it in hand, and despite this same partner boffing the last 6 of these in a row, the idiot still has absolute confidence in them...

    In short, these guys get put in charge and are idiots and folks let them stay "in charge" because they don't have the will to fight it.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    The kids are alright.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Gotta know your audience...

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That was such a "don't you have phones" moment.

    Amazing how horribly out of touch these folks are.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Shorter Version Gloria Caulfield Booed at UCF Graduation Speech the comments are on fire.
    youtubeUser - "Watching this was so cathartic you have no idea"

    another User - "I hate when people compare AI to the birth of the internet era and cellphones. Those eras did not have anywhere near the same level of job loss implications and the threat of eradicating as many junior positions as AI does. When boomers make this kind of comparison, it comes off as so disconnected and tone deaf. I hope I'm wrong about AI and that it actually creates massive new industries for entry level workers, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Not in my lifetime at least. We're about to see mass homogenization of culture and entertainment, significant privacy concerns, mass surveillance, scams, and an absolute gutting of entry level jobs; this is already beginning to happen. I just don't trust corporations and business owners to not squeeze every last cent out of AI agents and only hire employees as a last resort. That's their end game and they don't even hide it at all."

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I wish more people would understand that LLMs are "taking" extremely few jobs away. The "chatbots can do a real job" narrative is just there to bump up the stock prices.

    A real AI would incur massive job loss, but the job losses we're seeing now being blamed on AI are really just the same normal oligarchal greed at work.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Right now the ai companies are highly substadising their products. They announced recently that it actually costs them more than it does to pay a human engineer to write the same code.

    That means it's just a trap. They are trying to get companies to go all in so they will be dependent on them when the engineers are gone and they will raise the price significantly.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Which is frankly bizarre. You can definitely run an AI to assist with coding locally for a lot less than hiring a coder for even a month. So if they can't accomplish that without blowing the budget then there is no hope for them.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I see not only an era of scamming that will break basic human trust systems but the reliance on it will riddle previously methodical fields like medicine, design and law with a barrage of flaws and falsehoods no one will check until they cause failures.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Not just jobs, but:

    • Scammers that make convincing fakes
    • Knock-offs that get your views before you realize that it's hollow slop instead of what you were expecting for
    • Flooding the field of creative content with hollow stuff devoid of actual creative intent, mistaking verbosity and detail for quality creative content.
    • Exploiting small communities that either let big tech walk over them in general, or they just have to bribe a few city managers at pretty modest prices.

    I suppose the scammers are about the only arguably common downside between the AI boom and the dot-com boom, but it was at the time less compelling because it was such an 'alien' medium that people weren't trusted, whereas AI is corrupting a familiar medium with even more scam than people are used to.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Also, the industrial revolution fucked over a lot of people during the transition period so even if it was an accurate comparison it's rather callous to celebrate it.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago

    New machines can't count the 'r's in "strawberry".

    No, they can! They just first need to have a system prompt instructing them to generate and run a python script to do it.

    And yet, it's us meatbags being called inefficient.

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Your echo chamber told you something, and you failed to verify that info. You're no better than the "LLMbeciles".

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The thing is, that broadly these sorts of hiccups happen all the time, but every time one of them escalates to 'meme' status, they can institute covering for it in pretty short order.

    When you use them routinely, you see them do the hiccups regularly on random things you weren't expecting, but if one of those hiccups goes viral, then it stops working.

    I managed to get in barely in time to see the seahorse emoji before the meme became self-defeating.

    The viral instances only work very briefly to illustrate a behavior, as very well known specific examples will get covered. In your case, at one point suddenly all the LLMs were really good at knowing the letters in strawberry, but you ask about other words they would fall over because they only had that specific thing there. By now, I suspect most have implemented a scheme to ensure a more appropriate mechanism handles counting letters in a word, to spare the embarassment.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    I'm glad you've taken a nuanced approach to the issue. The technology is constantly changing and there are lots of genuine reasons to be concerned about AI. This just isn't one of them anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I wouldn't say the inability to count the 'r's in strawberry was ever a 'concern', but a demonstrator. It demonstrated two things.

    One, a quirk of how tokens work, which innately is a pretty benign limitation in and of itself, perhaps a bit amusing. We don't really need GenAI help to do nitty gritty stuff with the letters.

    The more troubling facet was the fact it would spit out something like "There is one r in strawberry" instead of "Due to limitations of the technology, that answer is unavailable". The tendency to spew something that structurally resembles the desired result with apparent confidence and certainty despite no basis for it being true is on display there. This is absolutely still the case broadly. The challenge being humans aren't used to dealing with being bombarded with that baseless certainty and have a hard time gauging the credibility when facts and fiction are presented with equal apparent confidence. Certainly some business leaders and politicians thrive on the confident but dumb answer, but generally we recognize those as bad scenarios, and LLMs firmly share that trait.

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  • [+] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    There are lots of great reasons to be critical of AI. Point to the power consumption, point towards the safety issues, but avoid using out of date examples as they weaken your stance.

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    Your first one is actually a pretty good example of something a lot of LLM fanatics won't believe. They believe in "reasoning" models as actually reasoning, and are not receptive to the reality that while it looks like reasoning, and even obviously the expenditure of more tokens is resulting in better final results, it isn't "reasoning".

    It declares step 3 to be 'botched' and then does the exact same step 3 and declares it good, and from an actual reasoning perspective it makes no sense, as it would have been step 4 that was about to be a mistake.

    So it arrives at the correct sequence, but it clearly didn't get through by "logic-ing" it, it just modeled that a mistake should be acknowledged around step three, because that's when folks generally flub it, and presented the rationale that is always provided to explain. It doesn't make actual sense, but it has the effect of the correct answer being reached, but not through actual abstract reasoning.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    You pointed to something that was out of date. I helped you make your argument stronger and you got butthurt about it.

    Glad I could teach you something, kid.

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    This is like the groom on his wedding night, going on and on about how fuckable all the Bridesmaids looked, and then being shocked that his bride is pissed off at him.

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    I got a radical idea they are already usless

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Learning is never useless or worthless. Education is not a jobs training program.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Which is why I studied Philosophy. Sure, a degree like that doesn't tie in to a 150k/yr job at daddy's company quite like a degree business management might (no shade), but I feel like the skills it gave me are suited to just about everything I do. I've spent time in tech, time in the entertainment industry, and time in retail. If anyone is interested in philosophy, I encourage you to pursue it. The way I see it, you have to make your own way in the world anyway you might as well equip yourself with reading, writing, and reasoning skills by pondering age old, potentially unanswerable questions and worry about specializing later.

    Just don't Socratease your coworkers. HR might not like that!

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    They're saying degrees are useless. Not learning. They're two different things.

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    Except they are categorically not useless? I'd still be stuck in fuckstick nowhere if they were. So would many others. Thats anecdotal and doesn't count, though.

    If someone is able to pass enough classes to get a degree without learning anything thats a them problem.

    Now, if one wants to call degrees a poor value proposition?

    Also wrong. Just because the US hasn't had a coherent fiscal policy since before Reagan and has allowed tuition to skyrocket while milking the students for all they're worth still doesn't make the degree useless.

    Learning is not useless. If someone doesn't learn anything in 4 years and accepts that degree? They're at fault.

    If the argument is that degrees are useless because they don't guarantee employment you can find my response at the top of this comment chain.

    WHY DO I HAVE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE HIGHER LEARNING IS AN ADMIRABLE PURSUIT REGARDLESS OF THE JOB PROSPECTS

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago*

    Love it how she started looking around when everyone started booing her, like "hey someone tell me what's going on", but there was no Claude around to explain it to her.

    That's what happens when you surrender your critical thinking to AI.

    I bet the delusional cunt spent the rest of her afternoon asking AI what happened and getting consoled by it.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Her reaction was shock that they weren't totally on board with being excited about their primary competition in the job market.

    Who booked this clueless tool?

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    The sorts of folks that get invited and accept these sorts of engagements are frequently self absorbed and out of touch. The hubris needed to think some randos want to hear you speak... Only hope is if the person has some particular reason they would make sense (e.g. if they are an alumni, then at least they might feel like they have a connection).

    The same general phenomenon as when they thought a centerpiece of the Xbox One release should be.... DVRing the Price is Right..... The same as when blizzard said "Do you guys not have phones?"

    If you are lucky, a speaker will just say nothing vaguely specifically.

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    [–] 21 points 5 months ago*

    heh. they turned the comments off on the youtube vid. can't imagine why.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

    Yeah, it's definitely the next Dot Com bubble. It'll eventually be about as evolutionary as the transition from Radio to Television, but there's gonna be a major course correction first.

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  • [–] [S] 52 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Radio to television is generous, IMO. LLMs aren't a path to AGI or even particularly useful to most people.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    Telegraph was the big one, that shortened broadcast communication times from weeks to a couple days. (Receiving the news telegram -> publishing and distributing the newspaper). News ticker, teletype, and eventually, telephone were all evolutionary ideas: they relied on the same newspaper for broad dissemination.

    Radio was the next revolution, shortening news distribution from a couple days to a couple hours, bypassing the newspaper and going directly to the public. TV was a relatively small evolution of radio. It didn't increase the speed or breadth of distribution; it only expanded the scope of what was distributed.

    The internet was a big revolution. Cloud computing was another evolutionary idea. AI is a rather small evolutionary take off from that.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    We are due for a course correction on Cloud Computing and Storage. Too many companies trust their most intimate secrets to Microsoft, Google, and Amazon; not to mention CloudFlare.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    If I had to guess, too many government agencies are probably bought by big tech. Otherwise, they wouldn't let that neglect of privacy fly at such a scale. I suppose the question is when people will get sick enough of it that it results in a change.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    most of eu/usa is trying to give access to palantir to private info, Uk with NHS, and palantir trying to get SSN/flock cameras, or other.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    And to have them be useful is a lot of setup and fuck around, needing to be done by someone experienced and not given to idiots to use for anything requiring reliability or rich substance.

    I'd say they're like going from 3.1 to 95, but web versions which most people use are pretty useless for non-basic things and basic things it's usually faster to do yourself.

    It's just how algorithmic prediction is.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Any machine or algorithm that cannot consistently produce the same results from the same input is fucking garbage and that is LLM in a nutshell. Garbage.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
    for a in {1..20}; do shuf -i 1-1200 -n 1;done
    
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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    AI (specifically the LLMs for which “hyper scale” datacenters are being built) are by good for summarizing large volumes of text down into a few points with reasonable accuracy.

    This makes them good for pouring over all the data you’re being forced to store in the cloud, including your conversations, financials, political donation receipts, and that patent you’re preparing to file for your million-dollar idea that just might work. Please be sure to associate all your accounts with your verified ID or they will be subject to deletion and your name will be automatically listed on the suspected terrorist and pedophile watch lists.

    Continue to participate in capitalism. We demand it.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    “Pets.com, Webvan, Boo.com, eToys, and Kozmo will bravely lead us into the next Industrial Revolution”

    Yeah that does sound dumb.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 5 months ago

    At least the internet had broad utility, just wasn't ready in 1999 to support e-commerce on that scale. It is now. I can't imagine a future where LLMs are similar. Even a theoretically perfect LLM is not like, actually knowledgeable.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago*

    Look, it'll put all your searches right there at the top in one roughly half-correct paragraph! All it takes is a quindecupling of energy usage and water usage in your community! Get some perspective!!

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    STFU Karen Gatekeeper PHD and give me my diploma you out of touch struggles to open a pdf hag. Education is everything yet in our lives it is a JOKE. Down with the empire!!!

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    I remember watching Bill Clinton speak at UCF. He called the school the military simulation capital of US academics.

    The school's large population of future debt slaves in the audience (getting worthless degrees in Psychology or Business) didn't understand.

    I found it elucidating, being a student of Engineering. I studied with fellow students working in Research Park working on computer vision algorithms, teaching missiles how to be more effective at bombing schools and hospitals abroad. They badly needed the money to pay for the college education.

    Few students at UCF were aware of their own school's involvement in the military industrial complex. Clinton was very aware.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    You know she has been to the island... she is sooooo dusty. she don't know shit from shit and she is telling other people what to do. Insane There is no god there is no justice

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Where were they 5 years after getting the first successful steam engine? This shit is just getting started..

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    "Booing?! I look forward to enslaving you all!! Is the mic on?"

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    If you want to share from 404, copy and paste the whole text here. Else, find another source or don't share it at all.

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