Ignore the court order. It's much too close to an election to change the maps last minute, and the work was already done. We'll revisit this for the next election.
I mean, the GOP has done this in multiple states. Fucking do it as well.
Ignore the court order. It's much too close to an election to change the maps last minute, and the work was already done. We'll revisit this for the next election.
I mean, the GOP has done this in multiple states. Fucking do it as well.
Thrown out on a technicality... Meanwhile Florida is about to gerrymander mid-decade in spite of their state constitution explicitly forbidding the legislature to draw districts.
So only the fascist filth are allowed to gerrymander.
Someone remind me, what comes after the ballot box is no longer valid in a destroyed democracy?
If the federal court wasn't supremely corrupt it would have disallowed all of this last minute gerrymandering that Trump started. Now Roberts wants us to believe they arent't deciding based on their politics. Yea, right. Super corrupt
I dont think Democrats have an uphill challenge to a majority. It might be slimmer, but I dont think Republicans have fully grasped yet the depth of discontent and anger by everyone but their most dedicated supporters
Redistricting would have consolidated Dems to get seats...
But the map passed on a vote, the people wanted it.
Judges going against the people is likely to see more Dem turnout and possibly even more gain in seats. While drawing attention to any judges up for election.
Every Dem state party has been operating at campaign levels for a year since the DNC started making it rain. They'll keep it up at least thru the midterms and likely thru the presidential.
A steady steam of ~1 million every month to every state (and territory) party with extra money going to red and purple states where we can get the most gains.
The Indiana primaries gave us a really good insight, as much as trump wouldn't shut up about it, the races all had very low turnout and close to 50/50.
Even rural Republicans are tired of trump, they won't vote D, but they may just stop voting for a couple cycles.
We're being forced to take the risky gamble, but it could very well pay off.
and thinking that way, inaction will continue and Pikachu surprised faces will reign come November as the Republicans hold on to power...
... then you can tell the world again there is nothing Americans can do to stop Americans from destroying the world
You either didn't follow the news this week or don't understand this decision.
I do, and I do. But I appreciate you thinking im too stupid to have formed an opinion
anyone can form an opinion, you don't need to be smart or dumb for that... now we can evaluate the opinion and infer the intelligence behind it
appreciate you thinking im too stupid to have formed an opinion
No you mistake the implication. I think you are stupid for having formed an opinion that isn't based in reality. You could just not form an opinion when you don't know enough to do so.
Lol really out here gatekeeping opinions if they dont match yours, huh?
But sure. Go ahead and work overtime to convince everyone Democrats are cooked, and if they disagree theyre just stupid and ignorant. Im sure thats a great way to encourage turnout.
Special kind of stupid you've got going on
Lol really out here gatekeeping opinions if they dont match yours, huh?
Its not a fucking opinion dude. Its a basic understanding of the implications of what this decision in combination with the earlier supreme court decision do to the basic electoral process in the US.
Go ahead and work overtime to convince everyone Democrats are cooked,
I'm sorry that you live in a religion that is based on cheer-leading for a team, but I choose to live in a practical reality that doesn't rely on rose colored glasses regarding how the Democratic party operates. These issues are too consequential to live in that kind of delusion. Democrats are cooked. And they've done practically nothing to protect the American people from the utter dismantling of the US democracy in the previous 26 years, and its only been accelerating.
Democrats were cooked when they rolled over on the Bush V Gore election. Everything we're experiencing is downstream of the Democrats decision to roll over on that fight. And Democrats have been soo cooked for soo long, that at this point the structural barriers to overcoming are being practically insurmountable.
You can't cheer-lead your way out of this.
and if they disagree they're just stupid and ignorant.
I mean you are being both ignorant and stupid. I'm sorry that hurts your feelings, but only you can help yourself with that. You don't have to stay stupid and ignorant. Do some work.
Sure, let's run campaign ads saying "stay home, its pointless". Really lock in the loss before there was ever a chance.
Is it painful being this arrogant or is it blissful? Stupid motherfuckers man
With shitlibs like you, who needs Republicans amirite?
We don't need hope or cheer-leading, and insisting that people just be "good cheerleaders" for the Democratic party:
Allowing Democrats to live in the kind of delusional state of how they are doing is why they are regularly fucking TROUNCED by Republicans. This isn't a FUCKING sports game.
You need to get the map of reality as close to correct as possible so you have a realistic understanding of how the game is set up so you can make the most effective decisions within that context. Cheerleading for Dem's deludes them into thinking their dogshit approaches to poltics can actually be effective.
Its not my job to tell this dogshit team that they are better at the game than they are. Its my job to hold them accountable.
So what's your plan then?
First off, I don't need to have a solution to a problem to be able to make an accurate criticism. The idea that its necessary for someone to have an answer for their critique to be valid; its part of the toxic positivity that handed this country to fascism in '24.
But there are some things we can do to make Democrats more effective:
#1 Stop fucking cheerleading Democrats. They haven't earned it, they don't deserve it. Stop giving them a false sense of where they stand when they are as deeply unpopular as the Republican party right now. It hurts their ability to succeed.
#2 Express your discontent and develop both an understanding of politics and theory of power that accurately represents and predicts reality. Do so in as many spaces as you have access to. We need to communicate our discontent broadly so that those in-power are not able to delude themselves into thinking they have a level of support which isn't present. Democrats fool themselves because of specific biases they have towards how they want things to be expressed, a kind of hand-wringing around who is allowed to be critical and how they are allowed to give that criticism. Anyone trying to push back on that needs to be burned alive. Any one trying to defend Democrats doing "business as usual" politics is an enemy of the people. Fascism didn't take over in a vacuum. It took over because apologist within the Democratic party wanted to maintain cultural hegemony over the party instead of enacting real change. And its bit them in the ass so hard there may not be any way to come back.
As far as this particular decision..
#3 The Virginia state legislature should re-district anyways, and just say something along the lines of "Eh we'll figure it out on the back end after the election". Alternatively they could pass a law nullifying this decision and as part of the law enforce it retroactively.
#4 Every blue state needs to gerrrymander every red district completely out of existence. To the hilt gerrymandering, because with the Supreme court decision earlier this week, there simply isn't path to a Democratic majority otherwise. And even then, its like, going to be tough. But right now team red wins the house because of this and the decision earlier this week.
#5 Schumer and Jefferies need to be replaced before November. They and other centrist Democrats are net drag on the party and their "roll over and show their bellies" approach to politics is such a net drag to Democrats in November, showing movement on this could stoke some enthusiasm. Democrats as a party have been polling worse than Trump for almost 2 years because of these kinds of leaders. We can't have them in the vanguard. They're too costly electorally.
#6 Begin preparations for the inevitable legal battles that are coming post-November. Expect every election result which is unfavorable to the Republicans to be challenged in court.
They did it. Elections are effectively cancelled for black Americans. This is the restoration of Jim Crow.
Can we please, please, please stop using the NYT as a source?
I mean, they have biases in certain areas, but they're one of the few news sources that does any actually reporting anymore vs regurgitation. What sources would you prefer?
I don't agree that they don't do regurgitation. They do some reporting also, but its always from a very narrow, specific neo-liberal framing.
And for this particular article, there are at least 100 other sources you could use? Any of them? Maybe one local to Virginia or one that broke the news?
The issue is the reflexive turn to legacy news sources like NYT or WAPO that have a specific framing which objectively supports the capitalist class; the treating of these sources as "the real news" and everything else like local news, international news, or smaller sites like DropSite, as not legitimate.
We really need to purge billionaire owned heavily corporate media from our diet.
Use the “illegal” map anyway, who gives a shit?
None of this “legality” matters anymore and the EXTREME court will just bleat about it anyway.
Fuck em, use the new map anyway
Going to be screaming at my Dem reps to use the new maps anyway. Just like Ohio has been doing.
We voted for this and these fascist fucks invalidated our vote.
Ram legislation through ASAP just like every other Red state that DIDN’T put it to a vote of the people.
As expected. I'm not sure why Dems were dancing around, celebrating the redistricting map, like the conservatives were finding out what happens when you fuck around with gerrymandering. There is no consistency in conservative ideology beyond "We're good people, so what we want is good, and what we don't want is bad." Republican gerrymandering is good, democrat gerrymandering is bad, they will fight violently to defend the former and stop the latter. Nobody should be shocked by this.
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