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[–] 13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The point of Lemmy is an alternative to Reddit without the algorithmic bullshit, bot flooding or extreme moderation. There are plenty of other resons for Lemmy, so pick your poison.

Just stop interacting with Reddit completely. Trust me, you will he better for it. It's just a shadow of what it was and is just regurgitated bot slop that was sourced from Reddit to begin with.

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  • [+] [S] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Reddit was always more toxic than not. Lemmy is still toxic in places, but the worst of it is contained in its own echo chambers. Lemmy has cross-instance drama more than cross-community drama.

    It's just easier for like minded people to congregate around the instance of their choosing rather than just a single subreddit or specific Lemmy community. That does cause community fragmentation, but personally, I would much rather it be that way.

    My point is that people are still just people and that toxicity is still around. We are able to self-segregate, so that helps a ton.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I only wish Lemmy gets the same kind of traffic. I needed feedback for something and now that is gone. But you have a point of leaving Reddit

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, you won't find many niche communities here, unfortunately. However, you can usually find answers in what could be considered adjacent communities. People may still be helpful. As a random, off-the-cuff example, if you had a specific question about a model of synthesizer, you could probably get away with asking something in a music community that has a decent amount of traffic.

    Users that have been around a bit know the challenges with limited communities so slightly off-topic, informational discussion is usually handled fairly well.

    I also missed the traffic at first, but I don't any more. Hell, it used to be super quiet on Lemmy not too long ago but it really has picked up. Along with the traffic came more trolls, more arguments, etc, but it's not too bad. Less traffic, but feedback can be much higher quality and it's easier to reach consensus with multi-user discussions.

    At the end of the day, Lemmy isn't Reddit. Once your dopamine receptors have the chance to adjust, it'll be ok. It may feel like there is less participation because people aren't being algorithmically driven to controversy. In many ways, Lemmy can be closer to what "real" Internet discussion is like.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago*

    That aside, I noticed "brain drain" in my favorite technical subs. Serious drain, as in "commenters haven't even read documentation," much less contributed any code.

    Also, my favorite fandom subs have gotten more... echo chambery? Fanatic? Star Wars fandom-like, perhaps. They have a really shallow depth of knowledge now, but they treat it like gospel. Novels? Speculative lore/fanfics? No way, not anymore.


    ...Not that it matters.

    I'm perma-shadowbanned on Reddit, for no discernable reason. And no recourse. So I'm certainly not contributing any expertise.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It's mostly the very popular subreddits that conflict is likely to be encountered, and where mostly the smart-aleck assholes come to congregate and try to pit themselves against another like in a PVP server.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    While it’s true you see the same behavior on Lemmy sometimes, it’s incomparable to Reddit

    you just have not 'found' the communities yet. Lemmy is pretty much just Reddit 2.0 but then with more people that have technological knowledge. Keep in mind there are a lot of people from Reddit on Lemmy (both ones that left Reddit and only use Lemmy and ones that use both). Personally, I have had the displeasure (as you call it) to experience the same ragebait, toxic toxic behavior on Lemmy that is usually on Reddit.

    The good thing of Lemmy though, there is no limit on the block-list. So you can block anyone who is being a annoyance.

    It’s just insufferable, I don’t know why I keep interacting on that shitty platform.

    If it disturbs your peace of mind, leave the comment section. Use RSS for the specific subreddits you regularly visit and keep it at that. This also gives the added benefit: When posts are removed by the user, mod or Reddit itself. You can still visit the page through RSS feed.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don’t know why people feel the need to attack each other all the time

    For some, Reddit is but a PVP server of an MMORPG. Never a shortage of assholes thinking they're smarter than the billions on Facebook.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    True, reddit does feel a lot more aggressive when you try discussing something, not just politics. Like that tone itself, something like " anyone who does this or doesn't do this is really dumb/ piece of shit)" I have seen this sort of comments everywhere. I don't like the subtle aggression it shows. I'll be honest, lemmy has their own share of it, but it's a significantly smaller share of people than on reddit.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I keep saying this when I was on Reddit: just avoid the front-page or just don't interact with anything from the front-page. It's full of immature folks looking for shallow dopamine hit.

    I truly hope there's not a mass migration from Reddit to Lemmy in the future or it's just the beginning of the end for Lemmy as well.

    I have a mixed feeling about this. On the one hand, I want to interact with more people and hear various perspectives and see more interests. I wish that the community that I was part of in Reddit could come here. But on the other hand, I agree that it could mean the same troglodytes will also flood Lemmy.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I hate to say it but also gen z (and gen alpha) not knowing shit about fuck is part of the problem. It's hard to describe without sounding like I'm shitting on them. Cuz it's not their fault.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    My brother in law is a university professor and told me yesterday that the students he's getting now can't even read. He's contemplating retiring early because of this.

    And the kicker, he says that a college education is a waste of money at this point. He says you can learn a lot more on your own with just internet resources and no distractions from the people who are in college now.

    I would have never been able to predict this sort of comment from him. It must be really bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They were raised on social media, social media gives a voice to the loudest and the dumbest because that drives engagement. It's no wonder they are all a bunch of morons when thats the only thing they have known.

    Boomers and gen-x had leaded gasoline making them dumb millennials had brain damaged idiots raising them to be dumb and now gen z has social media making them dumb.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    They do have agency, so it is their fault.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Yeah it has been rough. Decade and a half old account, frequent poster, moderater, went out my way to be open minded.

    Never a single ban, until two years ago:

    One ban for catching someone lying, they were friends with the moderator I learnt later.
    One ban for crypto facism I think it was? Why? Explaining to someone what a certain right wing political faction in the uk was and the upside to them being a protest vote to put pressure on current government to do better. Not even my views, was just devils advocating for someone elses opinion.

    For reference I'm a left leaning libetarian, there was no argument involved, just a zealous moderator who seemed really young.

    A ban on privacy sub for replying to someone who said something political, tbh, fair enough, caught a stray as did others yet can't fault the logic, just the punishment (perma so hot right now)

    Last was on a literature subreddit where the moderator made some questionable changes, I and some others politely discussed the changes, were upvoted for it, that ruffled mods feathers and so we all got a permaban.

    When you become a moderator on reddit they give you resources telling you how to act, what the goal is, etc

    It became abundantly clear that reddit doesn't care to enforce that. It's all just words to feel nice.

    Echo chambers, ragebait, tons of bots and fake interaction.

    I just had to find an alternative and here we are. You can tell the quality of discussion is so much better here.

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