There's a sweet spot in the corporate ladder. People at the bottom get the daily grunt work stuff that's time consuming and repetitive. People at the top end up with competing responsibilities so they spending most of their time in meetings about other meetings and arguing about planning to make decisions. It's right in the middle where you blend into the background and can spend half your work day in your underwear playing video games. And that's exactly where I like to live
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Quit and become destitute and homeless
Because apparently these days those are the only two options available
according to Peter's principle you don't get to get back down, you fall down
It’s hard to feel bad for anyone stuck in a position of relative success. For many of us, there’s simply no way to relate to such an issue.
It's just financial success for the most part though, and it's not like "I've built generational wealth" financial success, just I can afford to live in this shithole country somewhat comfortably financial success. The amount of asshattery that one has to put up with to get to that point though tends to pile a ton of stress and extra work and general malcontent onto most people.
I would be so glad to be able to live in this shithole country somewhat comfortably. :( I don't doubt it's extra stress and extra work being higher up the "ladder", but it's hard to imagine it's more stressful than living paycheck-to-paycheck and having to make decisions about whether it's more urgent to pay for food or medication this week. One group worries about work decisions 8 hours a day (maybe more, if salaried or on call), the other worries about basic survival 24 hours a day.
You gotta apply to another company now. There's no way back down in the same company that won't piss people off.
You demote yourself back to an IC. And they'll let you do it. And most likely they'll let you keep your salary and just make up some god-tier IC role for you to fall into.
Don't let your job dictate how you can best do your job. You know your own capabilities best. If you're better in an IC role, demote yourself and do the thing that gives you purpose.
I tried climbing the ladder, every time I got a weight put on me that was responsibilities along with the low pay weight. I couldn't climb at best, back slid more often. Fuck that ladder.
Life abroad is a pretty sound strategy.
Sure, if you're privileged enough to have a remote job and you're comfortable with getting a cheaper lifestyle through what essentially amounts to neocolonialism. But what about everyone else?
I know people from every country I've been to who are full-time travelers, including those you apparently consider "underprivileged", an epithet they would be offended by.
If an identical car costs $2,000 at one dealership and $20,000 at another, I'll buy the $2,000 one. You pay whatever you want.
Check your assumptions.
I'm underprivileged, and I'm not offended by the truth. You need to check your assumptions.
The sincerest form of flattery.
Oh, so you're just a troll? I looked at you "community" And it's just you and you deleting things you don't agree with. That's not a community. Maybe you were trying to start a blog and got lost?
Anybody who would be offended by being referred to as underprivileged needs to be slapped in the face. It’s like being offended because somebody said you were running late. You either are running late or you aren’t, getting offended because somebody doesn’t understand your situation is just dumb.
You want to slap underprivileged people you're insulting for understanding the world differently than you.
Executing your self-righteous violence without repercussion from your position of...what's the word...
I literally just said it’s not an insult. Don’t reply if you’re not going to read my comment.
Slapping those you've insulted will not convince them you were right.
Stop letting other people‘s opinions live rent free in your head. That was my point. If you get insulted because of somebody else’s opinion that’s your problem not their problem.
Worse though, saying that underprivileged is an insult is an insult to everybody who is underprivileged.
You're advocating abuse and blaming your victims for being insulted by your insults.
They're different than you; their differences don't warrant your abuse.
No, I’m talking about the same people you’re talking about. I don’t have any victims. You are the one who has friends who would be “offended by that epithet”. And since you aren’t taking this conversation seriously I will bid you good day.
We are talking about the same people.
I support their lifestyle and worldview; you are insulting and threatening them with violence.
I just said we were talking about the same people. You seriously aren’t even reading my comments or even trying to talk about the same thing that I’m talking about. Goodbye.
I'm reading your comments and responding directly to your stated viewpoints.
You aren’t even trying to respond, nor are you reading that I said this conversation is over. For real go away, unless you are willing to discuss how insulting it is to underprivileged people to be insulted by the word underprivileged.
I'm reading your comments and directly responding to your stated viewpoints using your language.
Your own language and viewpoints upsetting you may be worth examination.
You haven’t even used the words that I’ve used. Seriously go away or I’m going to block you.
I am directly responding to your own stated viewpoints using your own language.
Your own language upsets you. Worth examination.
Are you a bot or a troll? Either way stop responding to me.
I'm a traveler.
You might want to stop reaching out to folks you don't want a response from.
Why are you still asking me questions and talking to me?
Where do you think a Lemmy user you are interacting with on Lemmy will go?
You understand that that’s a two-way street right? You don’t get to keep responding and then ask why other people are still responding.
But here’s the bottom line; your original comment currently has more down votes than up votes, you can either admit that saying that underprivileged is an insult is an insult to the underprivileged or you can keep being a dumbass but those are your only two options.
You're messaging me specifically and asking me questions. I'm answering your messages.
If you don't want answers, see what happens when you stop messaging me.
It’s so interesting to me how you keep choosing the dumbass option.
Now you’re just reaching, this is a public forum nobody is messaging anybody. You decided to act like a dumbass in a public forum and now you can’t handle being called out for it.
Yes, you are repeatedly messaging me and asking questions on a public forum known as Lemmy.
I am answering your messages.
These aren’t messages, they’re posts. You still aren’t responding to what I said. So you’re not answering anything.
You reach out to someone, they answer you.
Cause. Effect.
Where? I don’t see a response.
That's alright.
If it’s alright then stop posting. But now you’re also just changing your comments after I respond to them so you’re not even trying to post here in good faith what is even the point of continuing to post then?
You keep asking questions, i like answering questions.
Then answer them. I just reread this whole thread you have not once actually addressed my point. Address it or stop responding.
Stop calling for a response if you don't want a response.
I do want a response. You are not responding you are being intentionally obtuse.
You don't like the responses you receive, but you insist on reaching out.
I don’t like it when people waste other people’s time intentionally because they’re butthurt over their comment not being received the way they wanted it to. If you would like to actually respond then by all means do so but please stop calling your obtuse bullshit a response.
If you do not like these responses, you can stop asking for them.
I never asked for you to be obtuse.
You go find whoever accused you of that and let them know!
Now you’re not even making any sense.
Sorry, can't relate. Not even sure what her problem is. "Boo-hoo I earn too much money & don't know how to stop!"
You could take the corporate parachute over there or the corporate zip line over here!
Start your own business, and get out. It's hard work, but you'll never be sorry to not have to suffer supervisory fools and toxic co-workers any longer.
I did this. Was a manager of a NOC. Been a sysadmin. Had good corporate jobs. Decided to jump off and start my own company. Now I'm sitting here in shorts and t shirt getting ready to head out of state to do a job for a couple hours before being back home for dinner. A nice way to spend the day, and being paid better then ever.
You dont, you just stand on top, pissing on everyone below you, because you hate yourself.
Suggest something that would make things better long term, but hurt next quarters numbers. You'll be back on the bottom of that ladder inside a week.
That's not really a worry. Once you get old enough and assuming you don't reach the very top before they can axe you, odds are very good your bosses will simply let you go.
Another option: Get demoted. Move DOWN the ladder.
In my part of the world, I'm hearing about a lot of people getting what are essentially demotions, even though the terminology being used is typically a lot more rosy than that.
As these companies are doing massive layoffs, they're also restructuring to flatten the organizational charts. Basically direct managers/supervisors are being moved into IC roles (individual contributors aka non-managerial worker bees), directors are having to take on direct management of IC while also sometimes also having to take on a certain percent of the IC work, and so on up the chain.
A noose. Or C4 if you’re feeling adventurous.
You’re almost there, don’t quit now


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