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[–] 15 points 6 months ago

Purposely hurting a pet (either their own or someone else's).

I'd say any animal tbh, but then I know I am a hypocrite because I partake in the meat eating industry.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Lying is a pretty big one. I trust people easily, but if you break that trust you won't get it back.

    I'm not even talking about lying to me necessarily. I heard someone bragging about how they lied about stomach issues at a festival to get a tent spot near the toilets.

    So you're letting me know that lying is a tool you deploy to get what you want? Good to know.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Almost related but I find it unforgivable to abuse animals. Especially animals that rely on you and trust you, like pets.

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  • Every fossil fuel executive and lobbyist is irredeemably evil in my eyes. They are responsible for countless lives that have or will be unnaturally shortened and/or worsened because of their actions.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Doxxing, raping kids, drugging people.

    I think i met a pure evil once: This guy rapes and has groomed a 16 year old that he constantly drugs. The 16 year old is now fully with stockholm syndrom. And is blackmailing me to not go to the police with messages of him admiting to these acts.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Blackmailing how? (If you can say in general without doxxing yourself)

    Blackmailing is a crime, and it's really wicked. Most people don't follow through on their threats in general, but drug addicts aren't particularly reliable or stable so I'll not guarantee anything.

    Can you consult with police first without making a report? They may not be able to do anything regardless if the victim doesn't want to come forward, so a consultation can help you decide what to do. So if they aren't able to do anything right now perhaps they can take the evidence and save it for if/when the victim wants to press charges themselves? That way they won't know you did anything until they are okay with it themselves.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    So the manipulator as faar as i know is around 30s. Also a nazi, nazi memerobilia, his last message with the blackmailing was something like him not beliefing in the non white zionist jew world lies. He's got my adress because i gave it to his victim one when the victim seemed to have come to his senses and broke out of the abuser for a few days. I offered him refuge. Victim though went back to his abuser against my best advice. He also seems to have chats where it seems like i am sending nudes and asking for nudes of this minor (in reality the picture i send was a drawing done of me that didnt show my genitals nore my ass for i censored them).

    I know blackmailing is a crime.

    I looked into reporting it anonymously but to no avail. To that also comes that messages as evidence arent that good nore can they be submitted as such without a judges ruling, from what i read.

    Then there is also the matter that while yes i can tell on hand of writing styles which messages got send my the abuser and which were the victim (yes the abuser seemed to have taken over the victims phone and texted stuff like "please dont report this. We all made mistakes. I dont want you to report it anymore"). And ofc that the evidence of him admiting it are screenshots of messages the victim exchanged with his abuser. And if a village police station (i have the abusers adress from the victim) would actually do something about it or just wave it off, is also complete other matter. The abuser is also half across the country from me and so would be the police. Due to germanys states' police all being indipendent of each other that is such a hassle for me i can expect that is why i would have wanted to do it anonymously.

    Then ofc like you said this whole thing with the victim coming forward or how that goes. Ugh.

    Can you consult with police first without making a report?

    Since its from another state idk how that goes and how it would be handled.

    They may not be able to do anything regardless if the victim doesn't want to come forward, so a consultation can help you decide what to do.

    Due to all the things i have mentioned and honestly me not wanting more on my plate that i already have due to life being life and me seemingly having wished apon a monkey paw with "i just want a peaceful quiet year" i dont think i could handle also managing this whole police investigation side mission.

    So if they aren't able to do anything right now perhaps they can take the evidence and save it for if/when the victim wants to press charges themselves? That way they won't know you did anything until they are okay with it themselves.

    Like i said my evidence is only text messages which next to the legal hurdles, i doubt are good evidence. I think the most the police would do if i said "hey this person living there, i suspect of cr, drug trafficing and trading, drugging, handling drugs to a minor and also grooming the minor" is just have a knock at the abusers place or a mock investigation. :(

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Doxxing's pretty fucked. the qualities in a person that lead them to do that are canaries for some chronic issues, I think. Lolcowism, in general is like that

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    [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Being unkind to those you deem to be in lesser stations in life.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    SA my daughter. I don't even want male friends anymore after my last good friend got my 16 year old drunk off 10 shots of vodka in an hour and then carried her to his house to rape. I just don't trust guys anymore.

    I should add that my mother, wife, and other daughters have all been SA. Everyone women I have ever had that privilege of talking to about this topic has been SA as well.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    jesus fucking christ. i cant even begin to comprehend what you and your daughter have been going through. i hope this guy gets what he deserves.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    He left town thankfully. He got charged with giving alcohol to a minor since they had him on camera buying it. He got 6 months and was let off with time served. The prosecutor declined to press rape charges even though he admitted to it on the phone with a detective.

    I think a lot of it has to do with our drinking culture. It has long been okay to get women drunk to sleep with them or purposely go out to the bar to take a intoxicated woman home. If alcohol is involved they just don't want to deal with it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I count trying to connect someone's alts together as doxing, since it violates the right to anonymity. If someone's made the choice to leave their name behind and establish a new identity, I say give them a chance. Let them be forgiven, don't tie them to their past.

    But I don't think it's unforgivable. If I did, I'd be a huge hypocrite. I think everything can be forgiven if there's a commitment to do better.

    (I do think exposing someone for sockpuppeting is acceptable, but that's a special case)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I would forgive a murderer before I'd forgive a scammer.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Really? I'd rather my mom get scammed than murdered, but that's just me

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    There's sometimes justified murder. Not sure I can think of a justified scam.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Scamming racists by making them think they're donating to a skin head fund in order to donate the proceeds to a charity that helps minorities from poor areas?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    narcissistic abuse. it gets underrated a lot, but when youre parent is a pathologic narcisisst, it really messes with your brain for the rest of your life.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Petty reason: They spoiled something I wanted to watch/read/play knowing full well my hatred of spoilers. Had this happen: I was actively in the process of playing through the Mass Effect series and a person gave me a massive spoiler. I've cut that person off and never wish to speak to them. They could not apologize and receive forgiveness if they tried, they might as well move on with their lives.

    Non-personal reason: I would be hard if not impossible for me to forgive someone for having been an eligible voter in the US 2024 elections and having not voted for Harris.

    There are many terrible things I've experienced and awful things I myself have done, but funnily enough I can forgive others and myself for them pretty easily. I think I usually can't forgive someone if they stubbornly take the stance that they know what is best for me in said actions or if they were sadistic enjoyment, petulance, or hatred. But actions taken in the moment of heightened emotion, desire, desperation, I tend to be very forgiving about if they ask for forgiveness, even if the acts themselves are often considered pretty extreme by most people.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Someone talked shit about me in their Instagram posts once during one of the most difficult times in my life (unrelated to their BS). It was kind of indirect, but it was clear who they were talking about and they held up an object I had given them during their video and talked shit about it too. I know that kind of thing is common nowadays, but I don't play that game. If you have a problem with me, you don't need to slam me online behind my back... just talk to me.

    I still see this person semi-regularly, but I just ignore them because I'm not interested in putting in the effort to fix our friendship when they weren't. This post is looking for "unforgivable" situations. I could maybe forgive this person if they apologized and explained themselves, but I won't ever make that move myself because I didn't do shit to deserve it.

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  • [+] -23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    being a cop, or being in the military (western). It's not the act itself which is unforgivable, but joining either of these groups shows that you lack judgement and that you are untrustworthy, which i don't have the patience or energy to navigate in my life.

    Encouraging people to get the depopulation (emergency use authorization mrna) shots is also disqualifying to me, especially if you claim to be scientifically or medically literate, these people definitely should have known better. Usually you have to go back a few years in a person's post history to find how the behaved during covid. Not believing in bodily autonomy or informed medical consent when it really mattered is bad enough, but the unforgiveable thing to me is the lack of basic first-principles reasoning and also an inability to read scientific journals criticially. Like if you are going to bother reading them, especially if they are otherwise out of your wheelhouse, you can't just uncritically accept all of their findings without critically assessing the method, and comparing the results to other more established research. Super basic shit. But the bar is so low and was even lower during covid that just reading an abstract was enough to make you an expert. And the actual 'experts' were so cautious about losing their jobs and professional reputation that any scepticism or red flags they raised in their research were worded very subtlely or even pushed down into a kind of sub-text. Don't read a single article and then pretend you are an expert! for a complete noob you'd be better off understanding some of the important concepts, then developing a first-principles understanding of the problem space, and then to read specific pieces of research to improve the resolution of this picture.

    But people don't read these things to learn or improve their understanding. They do it for a million other boring, pathological or career reasons.

    In my weaker moments i shrug my shoulders and figure that these people aren't going to be great to have in the human gene pool anyway, but this dehumanising malthusian thinking is itself disgusting. I avoid depopulation advocates (knowing or unknowing) not because i value their lives (even though i do) but because i find their method of thinking repulsive.

    Also anybody involved in real-estate.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago*

    Encouraging people to get the depopulation (emergency use authorization mrna) shots is also disqualifying to me

    the unforgiveable thing to me is the lack of basic first-principles reasoning and also an inability to read scientific journals criticially.

    Really telling on yourself here lol. If that was your takeaway from research around the vaccines then you lack the very competencies you find it unforgivable to lack.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Counterpoint to your military argument - sometimes kids have nowhere else to go. I grew up in a poor, broken household full of trauma. No one in my family knew how to apply for college, nevertheless was going to help pay for any single part of it, nor did they give me any foundation to have a life that wasn't horrible.

    So I joined the military straight out of high school. I did my contractual time and left, going straight to college with that sweet GI Bill and a bunch of life experience.

    Sometimes these kids don't really have a choice. It's survival.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Totally agree with people's judgement about joining the military. Not so sure about the cop thing because I have known plenty of people with good intentions becoming officers. I suppose it is a lot worse when it is related to cities instead of smallish rural towns

    You are way off base with the MRNA thing. This wasn't a new technology for the COVID vaccine. They had been studying this since the 1970's. MRNA will likely be the cure for cancer, common cold, MS, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's, etc.

    Also, although I often say real estate agents don't do shit they aren't the cause of our housing crisis. That would be people using it as an investment vehicle. Unless they do that as well and then they are definitely the problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    If you don't like cops because the vast majority are dicks...

    Logically, you have to understand that we way we fix that, is better people becoming cops. Which is not just difficult, it's literally physically dangerous. Go against cops and they'll throw you under a bus or straight up kill you themselves

    Someone who acts has good morals and is trying to fix policing thru the inside is not something that you should cut someone out of your life for

    All that does, is make them more likely to become a shitty cop.

    If you keep talking to them, you're the anchor that keeps them grounded, instead of becoming just another cop.

    You just don't understand any of that

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