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[+] -23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

being a cop, or being in the military (western). It's not the act itself which is unforgivable, but joining either of these groups shows that you lack judgement and that you are untrustworthy, which i don't have the patience or energy to navigate in my life.

Encouraging people to get the depopulation (emergency use authorization mrna) shots is also disqualifying to me, especially if you claim to be scientifically or medically literate, these people definitely should have known better. Usually you have to go back a few years in a person's post history to find how the behaved during covid. Not believing in bodily autonomy or informed medical consent when it really mattered is bad enough, but the unforgiveable thing to me is the lack of basic first-principles reasoning and also an inability to read scientific journals criticially. Like if you are going to bother reading them, especially if they are otherwise out of your wheelhouse, you can't just uncritically accept all of their findings without critically assessing the method, and comparing the results to other more established research. Super basic shit. But the bar is so low and was even lower during covid that just reading an abstract was enough to make you an expert. And the actual 'experts' were so cautious about losing their jobs and professional reputation that any scepticism or red flags they raised in their research were worded very subtlely or even pushed down into a kind of sub-text. Don't read a single article and then pretend you are an expert! for a complete noob you'd be better off understanding some of the important concepts, then developing a first-principles understanding of the problem space, and then to read specific pieces of research to improve the resolution of this picture.

But people don't read these things to learn or improve their understanding. They do it for a million other boring, pathological or career reasons.

In my weaker moments i shrug my shoulders and figure that these people aren't going to be great to have in the human gene pool anyway, but this dehumanising malthusian thinking is itself disgusting. I avoid depopulation advocates (knowing or unknowing) not because i value their lives (even though i do) but because i find their method of thinking repulsive.

Also anybody involved in real-estate.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago*

    Encouraging people to get the depopulation (emergency use authorization mrna) shots is also disqualifying to me

    the unforgiveable thing to me is the lack of basic first-principles reasoning and also an inability to read scientific journals criticially.

    Really telling on yourself here lol. If that was your takeaway from research around the vaccines then you lack the very competencies you find it unforgivable to lack.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Counterpoint to your military argument - sometimes kids have nowhere else to go. I grew up in a poor, broken household full of trauma. No one in my family knew how to apply for college, nevertheless was going to help pay for any single part of it, nor did they give me any foundation to have a life that wasn't horrible.

    So I joined the military straight out of high school. I did my contractual time and left, going straight to college with that sweet GI Bill and a bunch of life experience.

    Sometimes these kids don't really have a choice. It's survival.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Totally agree with people's judgement about joining the military. Not so sure about the cop thing because I have known plenty of people with good intentions becoming officers. I suppose it is a lot worse when it is related to cities instead of smallish rural towns

    You are way off base with the MRNA thing. This wasn't a new technology for the COVID vaccine. They had been studying this since the 1970's. MRNA will likely be the cure for cancer, common cold, MS, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's, etc.

    Also, although I often say real estate agents don't do shit they aren't the cause of our housing crisis. That would be people using it as an investment vehicle. Unless they do that as well and then they are definitely the problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    If you don't like cops because the vast majority are dicks...

    Logically, you have to understand that we way we fix that, is better people becoming cops. Which is not just difficult, it's literally physically dangerous. Go against cops and they'll throw you under a bus or straight up kill you themselves

    Someone who acts has good morals and is trying to fix policing thru the inside is not something that you should cut someone out of your life for

    All that does, is make them more likely to become a shitty cop.

    If you keep talking to them, you're the anchor that keeps them grounded, instead of becoming just another cop.

    You just don't understand any of that

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