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[–] 67 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Did he forget about that lawsuit he lost where his tariffs were determined to be illegal?

Who am I kidding? He doesn't give a shit.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Supreme Court ruling was against tariffs under IEEPA. He is still able to use industry specific tariffs under Trade Expansion Act, that's how tariffs on Canadian auto, lumber, steel, aluminum sectors continue dispute Supreme Court ruling

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  • is it then not possible for him to circumvent the ruling entirely by simply taxing the industries that account for like 99% of the trade with a given country? like it probably wouldn't be possible to list all the industries but surely listing 10 most popular ones would essentially equate to a blanket tariff

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It's effectively a bailout with extra steps

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The car manufacturers will charge the customer any tariffs and then when they sue to get there money back they will not only keep the price at the higher level butv will then get the tariff money back. Same thing the last lawsuit did.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    We all know it's actually just him being a petty little bitch over European countries not getting on board his train wreck of a war.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe BMW can announce a layoff, due to tariffs, of 11k jobs in South Carolina. Then VW can layoff 48k in Tennessee, and Mercedes with 6k in Alabama. Then those Southern states can see how horrible their choice of President was for their state...Ha! Who am I kidding, they will follow him into hell and blame Biden.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Cars made in those plants aren't subject to tariffs. It'd be incredibly stupid to do that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    It'd be incredibly stupid to do that.

    I don't see how that argument is relevant?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago
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    Back to illegal tariffs to distract from Iran war to distract from the epstein files.... what a fucking retard

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    What's that? US auto prices are going to go up by 25%?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Fuck, he's stupid.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is why you don't make a deal with Trump: he'll invariably break it whilst spewing some bullshit about how "it's your fault".

    Mind you the EU Commission is so sold-out, kept under control with kompromat and/or just plain incompetent that not only did they rush to "make a deal" with Trump when he first pushed the EU with Tariffs, they'll compromise with him now and will do so again, again and again every time he pushes some more.

    In the EU we need to get rid of these crooks and that specific dysfunctional anti-meritocratic structure and put more power in the EU Parliament directly or at least have it chose and elect the entire Commission rather than the "behind closed doors" way the EU Commission members are chosen at the moment - whilst the Parliament is directly elected via Proportional Vote, the Commission is just used by politicians in government all over Europe to reward their politician mates or quietly get rid of their most incompetent *cough* von der Leyden *cough* colleagues.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    The EU commission and the EU in general works always trying to descalate first, because usually a not-so-good deal is better than a war, even a trade one.

    So trying to get a deal is fine imho.

    Now there it comes the second stage. Got and tried a deal, the other party does not keep its side. Unleash the kraken and go for them. Go nuclear, start dumping US bonds and trade with the rest of the world in Renmibi (we don’t want the Euro to be the world reseve currency, no thanks).

    Hit them where it hurts.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Now do a 300% tariff on US cars exported to the EU so people will stop buying those damn RAM and Tesla deathmobiles already.

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    Eat fuck trump. I cant wait until you die.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    In B4 TACOs

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    [–] 39 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, the tariffs have really worked wonders so far. Glad we're replaying last year's hits.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'd imagine this has more to do with European automakers starting to go hard into Electric cars and those cars being significantly better than 'Teslers'

    BYD, etc are still tariffed to be moon in USA, so European is the next best thing.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Why is this not covered under the SCOTUS decision? Not even going to pretend to comply with the law anymore?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    And BMW is the US largest exporter of vehicles. Maybe they will take their production elsewhere.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Why? They produce in the US, they won't have to pay tariffs AFAIK

    Not sure who this will even affect. Most foreign manufacturers selling in the US build those cars in the US.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Doesn't these tariffs include also car pieces / materials imported to the US before being used / integrated into the car?

    Car being composed from thousands of equipments manufactured outside the US, i can't see how they can totally avoid US tariffs.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Eh sure, but that also applies to the competition.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    what competition...

    honestly this seems like another Tesla first decision...

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Tesla's materials also get more expensive if everyone else's does though. That's why I'm saying it's not actually an advantage for American manufacturers even if Trump wants it to be. They pay the tariffs on materials same as everyone else and the Europeans, Japanese and Koreans build their cars in the US too.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Why don’t they just stick him in some back room with a stack of fake trade deal documents to sign?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Is the trade deal with us now?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    I'm pretty sure he has dementia & thus nothing he has done is legal or standing (by law). I'm not a doctor, but I cannot allow his decisions to be declared sane.

    Aside from it all being against everything a president is allowed to/ supposed to do, it is also very wet-brained.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    He's such a 1-trick pony.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Didn't the tacobell "supreme" court just say the tariffs were illegal? What is the fat pedophile even talking about?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Problem is, the supreme court also said they're the only court who can stop him at a national level.

    So... Every time he breaks the rules, it has to go all the way to the SC to get overturned. Unless congress does LITERALLY ANYTHING.

    Extraordinarily inefficient... On purpose.

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