Then they'd be store-drop-off recyclable right?

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[–] 27 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I think the bigger question is why do cereals come in boxes at all?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The cereals I buy don’t.

    The boxes are really there to claim space on the shelf. They’re 100% marketing budget.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Lays is trialling then in the Netherlands at the moment and people are unhappy with chips going from €12/kilo to €20/kilo

    https://www.jumbo.com/producten/lay-s-bugles-nacho-cheese-chips-snackbox-135g-711678STK

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Your cereal bags are recyclable? They aren't also in cardboard boxes?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Cardboard box (normal recyclable) holding a plastic bag (can drop off at store if clean and dry).

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Drop off at what store? In what country?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    Right? I couldn’t get any retailer in the Los Angeles, CA (USA) area to accept shopping bags, forget cereal bags. Happy that the state sued the shit out of them then banned plastic bags though: it always sucked when I’d forget my bag and I’d have to pay for that thick-ass plastic shit.

    I do still struggle with plastic bags in packaging still though because my waste management company doesn’t accept them.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The heat would cause loads of condensation and ruin the lot

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    I'm not familiar with cereal bags being accepted for recycling at grocery stores -- although I'm aware that grocery store recycling in California has deep issues regarding implementation -- but regarding why a chip bag is different than a cereal bag, my guess is that it has to do with the former being air tight.

    Chip bags are intentionally filled with gas (usually nitrogen) in order to preserve the contents for a long shelf life. Rather conveniently, this also helps the chips not smash up against other chip bags in the same box, at the cost of fitting fewer bags into a shipping container. As such, chip bags have to be air tight, and mylar is good at that, as evidenced by mylar balloons that keep helium inside for far longer than a latex balloon (to the sadness of every electricity provider on Earth).

    Whereas I suspect the clear plastic -- maybe polyethylene? -- bags used for cereal have different requirements, because a cereal box already provides mechanical protection against other boxes, and an expectation that cereals (a bona fide breakfast foodstuff, compared to chips which have always been categorized as a snack food) will be eaten in quantities that make recyclability a priority; this is a guess.

    I also think cereals might historically have been just free-floating inside the box, in the same way that dishwasher power detergent is still packaged within a thick cardstock box, with a pour-out metal spout. That said, this citation seems to indicate that cereal bags are in-fact liners, which would suggest the primary reason is one of food safety, if contact directly with the inside of the box would be a problem.

    And this kinda makes sense to me, since nobody would want to eat soggy cereal if a bit of rainwater seeped through the box and contacted the food.

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