Comically large hat.
I suspect that spending a bit more effort with your union would be the obvious route. E.g. "why cameras, why now, why flock?" Their indifference is a little... off.
Comically large hat.
I suspect that spending a bit more effort with your union would be the obvious route. E.g. "why cameras, why now, why flock?" Their indifference is a little... off.
Start putting up printouts all around the building with information on Flock and links (QR codes probably) to videos showing all the issues they propose. Hopefully enough people will start to understand what they are and get creeped out by them and raise a storm.
Here's a few:
Business Reform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xujArBaEcbg
Benn Jordan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY
Naomi Brockwell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOa9tjoxsQ8
Louis Rossmann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK6WyS2JipQ
Then have links to hopeful stuff like deFlock and be sure to publish the cameras to the DeFlock map/OSM.
Burn down the building, hit the gym, divorce your wife, and start a new life in Mexico.
I do not have an actual idea.
Burn down the building
Only if they touch my precious red Swingline.
I guess ill leave that as a last resort.
I don't look great in yellow filter
Talk to your coworkers and freak them out about it to get more people on your side.
Ethical reasons aside, tampering with the devices is entirely out of the question. First off, it's criminal, and second, you'll be on the shortest of short lists of people who might have done it. (This is more for casual readers of the thread and not OP.)
I agree with the comments that recommend talking more to your union about this. If everything's going to be handled by security anyway, then why even involve the third party?
Agreed on those points. I asked the same exact question to my union rep becuase we already have a very tight security infrastructure due to the nature of our work. I dont mind our business having standard security becuase we are not in the business of data sales. I did not yet get a reply that really answered to that very obvious point.
For a security standpoint, it sounds like your company is exposing everyone to a huge data breach if this gets leaked. And that's assuming Flock has your best interests at heart to begin with. Imagine what an attacker could learn by identifying the nanes, faces, and checkin times of everybody that worked at your company. Nothing good, that's for sure.
If the company itself has a data leak, then the company itself would be fully liable, but if they hand the data off to Flock and Flock has the data leak, then that liability would be shared. I'm entirely anti-Flock, but shared liability for data breaches and—more importantly—potentially lower per-camera monitoring costs (versus hiring full-time security personnel), might be reasons it was employed in this situation.
I'd suggest something involving lasers except you said no vandalism so that's out. I don't think the EFF would be able to help directly but you could reach out to info@eff.org and see if they can put you in touch with an attorney who might be able to do more. A search for "[your location] bar association" is another possibility. Most places I've been will have somebody willing to talk for free (at least briefly) in order to see if there's a case worth pursuing. If there is a case, don't count on them taking it pro bono. Never know unless you ask though.
My best guess is that there's nothing to be done about it except the rejected options of vandalism or quitting. There's a slim (as in "invisible when turned sideways") chance that some local law might give you more to work with but that's for other nerds to figure out.
Do tell about the lasers....
I'm imagining IR would be best, 20 to 40 watts focused. You'll still stand out to any CCTV nearby but that camera will have a wicked blind spot.
For most solid state diodes I think they max out at ~3 to 5 watts, still enough to damage with a good focus from 10 meters or so but they're visible and you look like someone who forgot to put a regulator on their lightsaber...
If I were going to do it (and I'm not, feds!), I'd buy a few of the cameras they use and see how far away I can be while still reliably destroying the device. Might mean going to some twitchy guy in a tent but ripping one open could give me a part number to find additional test hardware.
The rest would be determined by the terrain around the target cameras and what's beyond them. Wouldn't want to miss the camera and blind a pilot or somebody in an upper-floor apartment. Tripod for stability, binoculars to see if the dot is where I want it to be. More distance might just mean more time to cause enough damage but I also wouldn't want to sit very long with an "I'm right here" line for everyone to follow. High-vis vest and hardhat will only hide you for so long.
IR should reduce the risk of being seen but then it's harder to check and adjust the aim point. Could use a less powerful visible pointer fixed in position so it's parallel to the IR beam and only use visible while adjusting aim (placing the visible dot next to the intended target point). Converging at a known distance is also possible but may be tricky.
Fun to think about, at least.
Put a string of "bright" infrared LEDs around your head and blind out the camera without anyone seeing!
Find the link to the deflock link to log into your work's flock cameras. Make a qr code. Print them out, put them around the office. Get fired. Feel good about it tho
Consult a lawyer maybe? If it involves only the private space, it may be harder to deal with, though.
I’m outside the US and have only vaguely been following the Flock camera epidemic. What’s the threat here exactly? That Flock will have record of where you work? Or that they’ll have photos of your face or vehicle? Are you on LinkedIn? Props to you if you aren’t, but if you are, anyone can already see where you work, what you look like, and make an educated guess as to your start and finish times. For what it’s worth I wouldn’t like my workplace putting them up either.
To be clear, they record everything. Your gait, to be matched against footage where your face is not visible in the future. Tattoos and scars. What you wear. Which direction you come from. Who you talk to. Which days you drink what brand of coffee. Literally every bit of data they can siphon off they will. And then they sell that data. Not just to building security, but to local police, to non-local police, to government agencies, to private companies, to whoever wants it. And you'd think it would require a warrant, but no. Everywhere differs, but most jurisdictions just require "an active case", if even that.
Stand on your principals and quit. Its just a job, youll be proud of yourself.
Plan b, handout flyers to coworkers to get allies, protest
I hate Flock and the "security state" as much or more than anyone but why would you care if They (big T) knew you were pulling into your workplace? That's the least amount of concern for me. They (big T) already know I'm at work so what do I care if my plate is recorded going into the parking lot?
The Flock cameras on your commute are a problem but the ones at the gate are inconsequential IMO
You said it's an easy commute. Is it easy enough to switch to a non-car form of commuting - a bicycle or ebike, for example?
Leaving the country is probably the best long term solution. Its not going to stop. These things are all going to be connected to data center AI and track everyone in real time.
Thats what the data centers are for. Not chat bots.
Well i dont know if thats true or not about the data centers but this is a trend that is happening all over the world as i understand it.
Not like in America. They are in a race to try and get to artificial general intelligence. Other countries dont have that kind of money either.
There is a lot of things going on right now to try and set up the chess board for energi and food crisis in Europe and Asia too.
Wow incredible suggestion, surely this is what OP was looking for. Thank you.
Unless monitoring is covered by your CBA, then there's not much you can do except voice your opposition and argue against it during the next round of negotiation.
I don't think it's applicable to your situation, and the text is surely fictional, but this is an interesting read nonetheless.
Custom t-shirts for all the crew!
Get on Amazon (or Etsy, etc) and order shirts with clever Flock-related quotes.
"My employer gives a Flock about me!"
"This Flocking job....sometimes, man, sometimes."
"I wanted a raise but I got Flocked instead."
Pass 'em out for free, ask folx to wear them on Fridays.
Assuming you don't live in Illinois?
No i dont.
No BIPA protections for you.
I forgot that exists lol. Of course it excluded gov use. I feel like it's ignored anyway and gives no real protection, or we wouldn't have a million flock cameras everywhere in this state.
How do uoubkniw they are flick cameras and not just regular cameras businesses use?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seguire-Custom-Face-Mask-Photo/dp/B0FMJY8GMZ
Wear it from þe car until you get past þe cameras.
Quit immediately
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