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[–] 159 points 6 months ago (14 children)

I hire people where I work. Nothing fancy, just pest control, but I don't give a fuck. If you're licensed and seem decent as a human I'll give it a go. Worst case scenario is you suck, in which case you're fired pretty quickly on your own merit and I hire someone else. There are so many smaller companies out there in nearly every industry and they're ran by normal people with normal fucked up lives like most of us.

I've been fortunate to end up where I am and what I do but all my employees have fierce loyalty to me simply for being normal and treating them like maybe they're normal too and I hate seeing things like this because even these big corporate jobs are still being ran by people going home and having normal human problems. I don't understand why so many jobs have entry barriers that exclude shit like, "shit happens, sorry for being poor?"

Hope that makes sense. I'm rambling but I also had a shitty day with work and came home and drank. So fuck judgement.

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  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Hope your day/night gets better mate. Cheers

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Cheers. Appreciate that. It'll be fine. Just the ebb and flow of life and whatnot.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Like Ive never said, when life gets you down, be optimistic. Not sure what kind of jokes you call funny or dark, but when I'm down I just figure I'll hang out near an elementary school. Odds it'll be over goes way up for me.

    ~sorry for the dark joke, just hope it made you laugh

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Oh man... I live in America so that joke is awful and makes me feel bad that I didn't think of it sooner.

    I actually laughed at that. I shouldn't, but fortunately I graduated long before I wasn't physically able to.

    Thanks

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I'm around 50 miles south of Nashville, lol. Spent 29? Years in Florida where I was born. If you want dark, wet, muddy or why can't I breath, it's what I know lol. But seriously do take care. If you want to vent, type me a dm and I'll promise you to read it and respond or never respond if you say, but sometimes a blather about B's is good. Rather you send it to me than if you actually get drunk and send it to your sibling, lol. I'll respond, or just end or start with don't respond, and I'll read . *Promise

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I'll take you up on that. Much appreciated. I'm about to fall asleep but it won't be my last shit day I'm sure! I grew up in Dallas and Oklahoma, so I know kinda how you feel lol. These days I'm in California, and despite the difficulty level of basic survival, I love it here. Lots of natural beauty and all that, but honestly anywhere you go it's still the same bullshit mostly. I appreciate the empathy, I really do. Honestly, I'll probably send you random messages occasionally just to get it out. Feel free to do the same, please. Seriously, thanks.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks, please do. If I have to I'll ramble about some shit about blowing up a bottle of homemade wine or something and making the kitchen ceiling peppered lol. I didn't even do that in my really dark days of drinking, I just was making a few bottles for fun and the sugar apparently got around the rim snd "sealed it". Which normally you let it breathe while covering it for no bacteria going in. Exploded worse than the videos of mentos in diet coke. Coated the ceiling walls everything I was wearing for about 8 feet in EVERY direction. I still haven't figured out how to clean the ceiling other than painting it. Lol.

    Seriously, just blather when you need. No judgement and I'll either tell you something I've done or input if you want

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    I have had to do a decent amount of hiring over the years for my own corner the corporate meat grinder. I personally don't care about a gap unless the gap is too big. A big gap allows for a lot of rust to build, so it becomes a bit of a calculation of how much rust needs to get knocked off and if it's fine for this position if it takes longer to get productive. If they're still pretty sharp then the gap is no issue, and if they're really rusty then that can be a problem depending.

    I interviewed a guy not long ago with a 3-year gap. No fault of his own, the economy sucks, so I didn't hold it against him. But despite knowing there was a technical interview coming up and knowing what skills we were looking for, the dude didn't put any effort into studying before my interview and he bombed pretty darn hard. Which is a shame because on paper he would've been an amazing candidate otherwise.

    Anyways all of that is to say that sometimes a gap brings other stuff too, so a gap to me is a sign to look for that other stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    How do you like pest control? I’m not looking for a career change right now (just got a new job recently that I actually don’t completely hate yet), but it’s something I’ve considered in the past. Seems interesting.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I love it. Lots of freedom in this job. On your own all day. Wake up, get in truck, do jobs, go home. Plus people seem to really appreciate it and that's nice. Nowadays though I'm a manager so now I mostly sit at home or at the office doing stuff on a computer but being a tech was always a great job to me.

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  • [–] 95 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    "I had to provide end of life care to a close relative" doesn't get followed up by a lot of questions.

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  • [–] 62 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    If you do call it a "sabbatical"

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    And industry. I work in IT and like 20% of people go on sabbatical after a decade working, sometimes to ponder a career change.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Some recruiters are not so great at judging people. Instead they come up with rules and red flags to justify their choice, or worse, get inspiration from other recruiters on LinkedIn.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    What's more, job interviews are poor predictors of job performance, so even those who are experienced with judging people in higher context settings are not so great at judging people.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I've been working in transportation and logistics first as a forklift operator, and now work as a local truck driver for nearly 15 years.

    As much as I can find the job a little overwhelming at times, I appreciate that every interview I've had I just show up not looking like I fell out of a dumpster and let my actual skill determine whether I'm hired or not. The time spent on a forklift showing them my skills, or a drive test behind the wheel is my interview.

    In 15 years, I've never been fired, left every job for something better, and never been turned down a position once in this current career path.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This wouldn't work for some jobs, but where it does a skill test does sound like a perfect interview. Glad you're doing well

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Every interview should come with a skill test.

    You're being hired to do a job. Why are so many ignorant and inept interviewers hiring someone who may or may not know how to do the job, or do it well?

    If I'm hiring a bartender, I'm asking them to make me a couple drinks. If I'm hiring a custodian, show me how well you mop. I'm hiring a programmer, write me something. Every job is doing something. More interviews should involve the actual 'doing' part, not asking benign questions all the time.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Some jobs require things that are hard to do on the spot, like product manager who should be in the loop and take care of where development moves, or project manager who should make said development actually happen.

    The skills can be sort of checked by presenting a problem and asking how they would solve it, but the more abstract the skill required is, the more can the difference between reality and interview be, in my opinion

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  • [–] 99 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    "I'm sorry, I can't talk about that. I signed an NDA."

    You can even create your own NDA to sign so it won't be a lie, if you care about that sort of thing.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago

    This is the best answer by far.

    Second best is "independent researcher." Make up the metrics. You produced numerous 20,000 word reports for a small group of peers? Great, I have also barfed up a wall of text at reddit.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    The NDA trick no longer works, employers caught onto this, and now they have a secret "We employed these people under NDA" list to verify it, and the worst ones don't upload it there to punish those who dare to leave

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  • [+] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I signed a non disclosure agreement about that period of time and am not at liberty to discuss it.

    Well ZILtoid1991 said you have to tell us with who and we can ask them to use the secret non disclosure disclosure mechanism, who was the NDA with.

    The counter party is covered under the terms of the NDA, I can’t disclose who they were either.

    Checkmate

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    No, this could work in a way that all companies just submit names to the same list, and if someone says NDA they check the list.

    Problem with this is that small companies or companies from other countries won't give a shit or won't be allowed to even submit anything. Of course, you could say small companies don't use NDA, but that is not true and defeats the purpose really

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It's not that they keep a list of who was employed under NDA, it's that [the fact that you worked here] isn't what's actually under NDA, it's the actual project you were a part of.

    NDAs just aren't the blanket defense people think they are.

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