My local Lidl has sodastream machines this week and I was wondering if its annoying/unnecessary to put a little post it note on it saying its an israel product or something

Edit: thanks for all the replies, I ended up messaging the customer service and I left a piece of paper with "boycott Israeli products" with my shitty handwriting on a sodastream box, I didn't stick anything anywhere so hopefully this will avoid any "vandalism" accusations.

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[–] 85 points 6 months ago (9 children)

If protests are not annoying people will just ignore them

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    It also benefits movements through the radical flank effect. (e.g. when white people saw the Black Panther Party carrying guns to protect their community, MLK Jr's fairly peaceful sit-ins seemed not that bad in comparison, and when having to make a choice on whether or not to give black people rights, it was easier to justify doing so if the perceived alternative was "black people in the streets with guns")

    In this case, the options then become "buy products that always have random sticky notes and are telling me I'm a bad person" vs "grab the product that doesn't have the sticky notes".

    If it becomes increasingly annoying to buy products which support Israel because there's constantly little sticky notes/stickers, people pushing things further back on shelves or flipping products around, etc, then it becomes a lot easier to justify just... not bothering buying the products that are being boycotted. (and it also saves people the hassle of looking up which products are being boycotted, which just makes the lives of anti-Zionists easier)

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    There are ways to be compelling other than annoyance.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Annoyance shouldn't be the goal, but will be a side effect. The main goal is to exert some sort of pressure. Like the Civil Rights Movement gave America horrid optics between Emmet Till's open casket funeral and the state unleashing batons, fire hoses and police dogs on school children. It also exerted financial impacts through the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The Movement was super effective though unpopular during those times.

    I think a lot of people don't understand protesting and it's in the state's interest that this be the case tbh. Hence why they keep pushing sanitized MLK

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    It'd be annoying to someone. But that's why you should do it.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    If I saw that I'd appreciate it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I'd go with a sticker. Keep the text short and simple

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  • [+] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    But will Lidl actually listen? That's the real question.

    They might not care if one person tells them that, or even if many of them do, especially if they make the calculus that those people will probably still be buying other things at Lidl anyways.

    If sales for the product drops because people are putting sticky notes on them, knocking them over or hiding them behind other products, etc, then Lidl has a reason to not bother with the hassle.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Targeting the uninformed consumer will be far more effective than complaining to head office.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Do you have a source for your claim? Because it seems to not match reality to me.

    You are far more likely to find sympathetic ears out of the hundreds of shoppers passing than you are from a corporation who cares about profits over everything.

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  • Do it.

    Been putting boycott stickers on Israeli stickers.

    Once i made stickers that resemble a promotional campaign to win a trip to Israel, but the QR code led to betselem.

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  • [+] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Unnecessary or annoying are perhaps not the standard to judge this by. I think legally you could be in trouble. Inside your local supermarket isn't the place for a protest. Trying to dissuade customers from buying certain products by tempering with the merchandise, even if it's just a post it note, will at the very least get you barred from shopping there and at worst a day in court. If you are unlucky, this has the potential to be a decision you'll rue.

    Look at what kind of protest is allowed where you are. Because the rules aren't universal. But holding a placard on the public space in front of the store may be the safer option.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Good point, though I'm not sure if companies here in Finland act so aggressively, especially Lidl which from my understanding is a (bit more)decent company in terms of employee conditions and they do have some of the best/broadest selection of vegan and vegetarian options, so I don't think them selling sodastreams is as much of malicious as rather ignorant

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Keep in mind that you are talking about a German supermarket chain and you want to protest a company headquartered in Israel. Their reaction may lack rationality.

    Do what you think is right. Just be aware of the possible consequences.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Go for it, a lot of people might not know that about soda stream. If anyone gets annoyed that's their problem because they're probably pro-jizzrael and they can go fuck themselves.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I'm all for activism!

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  • Vandalism may or may not get you in trouble, I'd do something that informs people first and foremost.
    Maybe make some sort of infographic flyer:

    Sodastream logo --$--> Israel flag --bombs--> Gaza rubble
                                \------bombs----> Lebanon rubble
    
    

    Maybe a before/after shot of what they blow up.

    People don't have long attention spans. Get the point across that buying sodastream finances bombs against schools, hospitals.
    After that, people who can't see a problem with that are not gonna get convinced either way.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Is vandalizing private property allowed in Finland?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Calling post-it notes vandalism is pretty ridiculous.

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