Why the F do we care about what US companies wants? Stay the F away from EU soil if decency, ethics and laws doesn’t fit your style.
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The corruption needs to stop. Eat the rich.
Okay so we’ve all been saying this since when?
When?
When does it start?
Now?
How about now?
Now??
I mean, gotta start somewhere. I too would like to see more direct action in play but we’re trying to motivate nations here, tens or hundreds of millions of people.
Take no kings, I get that it’s been toothless, but it built a large following and the next one is calling for action. It probably won’t work, probably won’t be enough, but it will build momentum, and the next gets more, the next more still. This is obviously US focused (I’m American but this shit has gone global).
It took them a very long time to infiltrate the governments, this has been going on for decades. We won’t be able to solve it in a weekend. It’s going to take time and hard work to fix this shit.
Eh, you just need to convince the politicians that bending to the lobbies will be unhealthy for them and their families, not hundreds of millions of people.
I mean some people have started see Luigi, warehouse guy, guy who threw moltov at Sam Altmans house, guy shooting at politicians home for voting in favor of an AI datacenter in their town, and I am sure there are more that I am unaware of too.
When the economy collapses again and, instead of working two or more jobs, people have zero jobs.
Perhaps we shouldn't send politicians burned by domestic corruption scandals to Brussels. 🤔
No one should fail upwards.
dont want people to know how badly it is polluting the area around data centers, and the cost of electricity, and fuel.
I keep reading about lobbying. I don’t fully understand how it works. Are there requirements for disclosure, approval and public transparency, or is this just something individual politicians or groups can do just like that?
It's a bribe by another name.
It's not an illegal bribe, if we legalise it and call it lobbying. *taps head
But why do individual politicians or groups have the power to get these things through? Is it not subjected to a majority vote or something?
Because a free society does require the ability for citizens to petition their government (imo).
Corporate lobbying is just what happens when that's not properly regulated
because you need individual votes to make up any majority
So the lobbying is, in each particular instance, of potentially 100+ people (in the case of EU parliament 300 or so +), likely across parties? That seems difficult to organize, at first sight.
Lobbyists are people working on behalf of companies whose job is to meet up with politicians to discuss their issues. Typically that involves some back and forth that may or may not be considered bribery.
You want a law to protect your business? You go talk to lawmakers behind closed doors about how some laws are needed to better protect children and also data centers, and subtly let them know that maybe your company might have a job for them in the future.
Those lawmakers then go out and propose these laws and they sell the idea to other lawmakers who approve them for the children and datacenters.
So mostly not a consequence specifically of lobbying, if the majority votes due to actual conviction. Rather of disinformation/laziness, which will affect non-lobby initiated proposals too.
Lobbying on its own is not the issue. Nurses' lobbies and teachers' lobbies, for example, work for a good cause.
The issue is that lobbying is done in private, and citizens don't hear about anything until laws are proposed, by which time they already have momentum and are very hard to fight. And once laws are enacted, it's even harder to reverse them.
The reality of the situation is more or less clear, but it helps to understand how things are supposed to work. They make their case and then what? does the audience decide on its own? Otherwise it seems difficult to buy the entire.. voting majority?
Ok and they still need majority vote.. often, at least? In which case there seem to be a lot of politicians who are just misinformed (if the lobbying has negative consequences), which doesn’t relate to lobbying specifically but their general decision making.
Man, I love the verb "lobby", it's one of the hardest working euphemisms, lol.
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