U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration's top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

"And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war," Vance said.

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[–] 98 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Alternate headline: "Being a Bitch to Russia one of the Proudest Achievements of Trump "Administration"."

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  • [–] 46 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It was a free event and only like 100 people showed up and many of them heckled him repeatedly.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    He still said it. I don't care if he said it to a group of clowns at a birthday party, the Vice President of the USA just admitted publicaly that he's happy civilians in Ukraine are dying because they reneged on an international promise.

    This is 100% why I hope no country, no matter what happens in the coming decade or more, ever gives the USA an ounce of trust ever again. A century of good will, ally-ship, and negotiation completely pissed away in less than a year. Why should ANY of us ever trust the USA to hold up any ounce of promise ever again?

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  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Just Dumb and the MAGA fucks continue to break the 1994 Budapest Agreement. If the USA requests you to get rid of your nuclear insurance policy, tell them to f-off.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    they're not really breaking Budapest memorandum (not that they wouldn't break any treaty in a heartbeat) because it did not say the other signatories would have to defend Ukraine from anyone else. It's still a bad precedent for nuclear disarmament of course but then again the Trump administration has done every fucking thing they can to make literally every country in the world want nuclear weapons now because they've completely broken the old order where countries had at least some faith in USA mostly upholding and abiding by international law and supporting their supposed allies.

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  • [–] 42 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    Athens, Georgia

    My European brain just confused the fuck out of me.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    There's 14 Parises in the US. So I hope everyone loves Paris, as there's a bunch.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    We've got a Rome, too.

    (I haven't really been there, but it's probably pretty shitty given that it's part of Marjorie Taylor Greene's former district.)

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Also Venice, Syracuse, Amsterdam, London, York, Munich, Madrid....

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago*

    "Athens" is such a popular name for small towns in the US that New York state has two places named "Athens."

    "Wow that's dumb," you say. And sure sure, you've got a point.

    But what will you say when you find out Pennsylvania has three?

    "Jesus H. Christ, that's idiotic," you say. And I can't argue.

    But you will be rendered speechless by the news that my own state of Ohio has four localities named "Athens."

    ...if you don't count the one named "New Athens."

    I'm not making this up.

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  • [–] 72 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

    Knowing that Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for permanent protection from the US, I can understand the "agitation". I'd be pissed.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    in exchange for permanent protection from the US

    The Budapest Memorandum did not contain such a security guarantee.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Both the US and Russia agreed to respect their sovereignty which Russia violated beginning in 2014 and Trump personally in 2019. While it did not spell out permanent protection, I think this is a valid interpretation in regards to permanent protection from their actions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum#%3A%7E%3Atext=Another+key+point+was+that%2Csecurity+guarantees%22+was+used+though.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    While it did not spell out permanent protection

    If a treaty does not spell out permanent protection, then it does not give permanent protection. That is not how treaties work. It is not a "valid interpretation" to pretend a treaty gives guarantees that it does not specify.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The guarantee is a permanent protection from their actions, not permanent protection from others action or a requirement for assistance. You are either purposely being obtuse here or just disingenuous.

    My guess is you are a Russian apologist.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    So when you wrote "permanent protection from the US", you meant that the US would so to say "protect Ukraine from the US"? Not that the US would protect Ukraine from e.g. Russia? That was a very unclear formulation!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, that was the agreement that Russia, UK, and the US agreed to. That they would not as a country infringe on Ukraine's sovereignty.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I doubt the first poster who mentioned was talking about that. It's a pretty common misconception about the Budapest memorandum.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Perhaps they are under the misconception that we are legally obligated to defend them. This is incorrect of course.

    On a side note, the US did violate this agreement when Trump threatened to withdraw support unless Ukraine agreed to blackmail Biden. Why Trump is allowed to continue to harass Ukraine is yet another failure of Congress.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I think we're more civilized nowadays. I'd be content with reintroducing the pillory. Especially the 'In addition to being jeered and mocked, the criminal might be pelted with rotten food, mud, offal, dead animals, and animal excrement' part.

    Seriously though, hanging seems too quick/easy and I'm pretty sure public humiliation is a worse punishment for self important narcissistic fucks.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago*

    Their entire cabal should suffer the same way that We The People suffer under their rule.

    Incarcerate them as common federal criminals.

    Strip them of their material assets and mark them as sex offenders and ex cons. Then release them into our world: Where they have to use "marketplace" insurance that charges an arm and a leg but covers a pinky toe.

    They can try to apply for loans with abysmal credit and a shitton of debt that keeps compounding because they can't pay off that debt.

    Regardless of political following, the entire country knows or would find out quickly what terrible workers they would be at any real job, so they would need to apply and get ghosted endlessly to even begin to mount the steps to approach the class ladder they and their ilk constructed.

    If they do get that job somehow. They get to enjoy clocking in and out every day, exhausted and abused, knowing the only influence they'll ever again exert is suggesting the taco value deal over the burger meal, or the brown purse over the black one. That every single day of this isn't getting them any closer to a brighter future or a way out of the cycle.

    They'll go to their public libraries they fervently cried to defund, and they'll ask for help, but be kicked out by security after screaming about immigrants and bathrooms.

    They'll be forced to use our crumbling, car-worshipping infrastructure after jumping through tons of hoops to validate their identification and get a driver's license and maybe even a "Real for really reals tho" ID if they ever want to board a plane. (But with today's airfare haha that's unlikely!)

    See how far those bootstraps get them.

    If a traffic accident, the healthcare system, garbage food, or gun violence doesn't do them in, they'll live out and die as they falsely professed themselves to be:

    ...Actual Americans like you and me.

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    [–] 66 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Never seen someone so proud of themselves for fucking couches and killing children. Have you said thank you yet?

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Nothing gives Vance a hard-on like abandoning his allies while they are being genocided. Hide your sofas, save your cushions.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    We should stop funding Israel in return. Let Washington pay for its country-sized military base, we have more pressing and deserving issues at home.

    https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2025/000005_en

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Well I'd call the end of The Trump administration one of the proudest moments for America

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago

    It's amazing that Vance can use so many words to say so little. If he wasn't so full of shit I'd say he's totally vacuous.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago

    Couch fucker piece of shit

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    What a vile cunt

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