They're already out here trying to lay that groundwork for the next election with the shaming. They know all they have to do is get some actual decent candidates but that's obviously a bridge too far and they'll put forth some ungodly combination of Newsome, Harris, and don't forget Klobuchar waiting in the wings.
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Oh. Are you not American?
Most media-defined liberals here are better called "neoliberals". I really doubt they're over a third of the population here.
We call the people that think healthcare is a human right, education should be affordable or even "free", and wars are a total disaster progressives politely and woke libtards pejoratively, or just libs. These people make up about 70% of the population.
Not liberals, democrats. Let's use labels that actually describe the group that's being discussed. Democrats for the most part are conservative, ever trying to maintain the status quo and unwilling to try anything else (meanwhile republicans are fascist not conservative).
Of course, democrats will continue to call themselves liberal and republicans will continue to call themselves conservative no matter how much I insist that they're wrong, but I'll continue to assert this point whenever a convenient opportunity arises.
Not liberals, democrats
Potato tomato. Neoliberalism (the kind of Liberals the DNC leadership are) is the ideology of Thatcher and Reagan and refers to laissez faire economic policy, not ACTUAL liberty for all.
Democrats for the most part are conservative, ever trying to maintain the status quo and unwilling to try anything else
Yup. Still Neoliberal.
meanwhile republicans are fascist not conservative
Yeah, those fascists are textbook ultra-regressive
Of course, democrats will continue to call themselves liberal
Because over 99% of them are. Liberalism ≠ Leftism.
They'll also keep calling themselves progressive, though, which IS left wing and thus NOT what the vast majority of Democrat politicians are.
and republicans will continue to call themselves conservative
Because blatantly lying about what they are and what they do is THE pillar supporting all GOP election success since the 60s if not sooner.
no matter how much I insist that they're wrong
I mean, you're right about one of them and wrong about the other 🤷🏻
I'll continue to assert this point whenever a convenient opportunity arises.
Which part(s)? The part you're right about about, or both?
Part of what I'm complaining about is that groups following an ideology often give themselves names and descriptions that do not accurately describe the ideology. If we accept that and use the labels they gave themselves, then we distort what those words even mean and language is useless.
Imma cherry pick some definitions in order to best make my current point.
Liberal. Adjective.
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
Open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
Conservative. Adjective.
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
I don't think I need to do a section on "fascist".
Also also, the word "neoliberal" is absolute syllable salad to me. It's like it's trying to pretend to be one thing, but is actually the polar opposite of it. It's a case of a movement naming itself without regard to what the fuck the word actually means and therefore it doesn't mean a damn thing. Neoliberal is a name, not a description, for diet republicans.
Liberal. Adjective.
Favorable to progress or reform
That's literally Progressivism. Which ISN'T Liberalism.
Open-minded or tolerant
That's 1700s Classical Liberalism, when compared to the ultra-authoritarian norms of the time.
Modern Liberalism AKA Neoliberalism is an economic philosophy that is very much capitalist and authoritarian.
Conservative. Adjective.
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc
Correct
, or to restore traditional ones
Nope, that's regression. Easy mistake to make when everyone calling themselves conservative for the past half century have actually been regressive.
and to limit change.
Correct.
Also also, the word "neoliberal" is absolute syllable salad to me.
Bolded the significant part. The "neo" part is there for a reason, as described above.
It's like it's trying to pretend to be one thing, but is actually the polar opposite of it.
Nope. Neoliberalism is economically Liberal and can be socially progressive, neutral (most of the DNC) or conservative (most "moderate" Republicans)
It's a case of a movement naming itself without regard to
what the fuckwhether or not glitchdx understands what the word actually means and therefore it doesn't mean a damn thing to glitchdx
Fixed it for you.
, or to restore traditional onesNope, that’s regression. Easy mistake to make when everyone calling themselves conservative for the past half century have actually been regressive.
Isn't that reactionary/reactionism?
Nope, being reactionary means that your actioned and/or opinions are reactions to the actions/opinions of others rather than proactive ie what others react to.
Being regressive, on the other hand, means wanting to regress to a previous state, such as wanting to roll back social progress or otherwise return to how things used to be.
MAGA being a classic example of revisionist regressive ideology pretending that everything was better back when minorities and other vulnerable groups of people didn't have as many/any rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
Yeah, your meaning of regressive is actually the meaning of reactionary.
They are neo liberal, thats is, capitalists, just ok with people not being wasps. Thats the only difference.
Max left.
I think the frustration is their complete inability to compromise.
Oh they compromise all the time, just not with anyone left of Reagan.
They dont want to. They are getting what they want, money.
How many war crimes are permissable do you reckon?
Zero.
Yea... We were thinking a positive number closer to infinity.
No.
You're assaulting me! I'm going to stand my ground!
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Fun fact, the guy who did the goofy goes to trial (from the meme here) ended up as the director of smiling friends
The guy who invented the Harlem shake was a firefighter on 9/11
And so was Steve Buschemi!
No he became the pop sensation Joji
I'm not even kidding, he actually was.
She wasn't unelectable if people had actually looked at her voting history.
That must be why she won, eh?
The DNC is functionally controlled opposition.
Thanks for saddling us with the Orange Jackass, Hilary. We could have had Bernie but nooooo, you just had to shoulder him out of the way. Bitch.
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