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[–] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sike, it's cutting wire. Anyone who falls ends up cubed like that Resident Evil scene.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Wow, my brain had a tough time processing that image. Turn it about 20 degrees counter clockwise and it looked like a hallway with several red carts with netting blocking the way. I literally thought the morgue was at the other end.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    It was either that or putting in a drain, adding a hose connection, and waterproofing the splash zone.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    This seems awfully not stretchy...

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    It's not a safety net, it's a sieve

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    With one every floor and that sharp angle, I was thinking more cheese grater. No time to get the velocity to go through it but enough momentum to slide across it

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    If you jump the railing, you're at the lowest part of the slope.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    Wouldn't that depend on which railing you jumped.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    This means that someone jumped, the family sued, and your local nonprofit hospital had to spend money it didn't have.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    Very american point of view. My first thought was "oh dam, someone in a disturbed mental state (tbh I thought suicidal) attempted to jump/jumped and the hospital wants to make sure no one else hurts themselves that way! That's good care!" But we can also look through the extremely negative POV of no one does anything good ever unless there's money on the line, right?

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention.

    How much does a net even cost?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention.

    Well, perhaps because this is not suicide prevention, but just suicide relocation.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    It isn't, actually.

    Contrary to what people seem to assume, putting up minor obstacles to prevent suicide has been scientifically proven to be effective at reducing suicides not only at that specific location, but in the general area (meaning people don't just find another way to do it).

    Suicide is generally an irrational, often spontaneous act. Suicidal people are, in the vast majority of cases, not thinking clearly. Requiring someone to engage their brain enough to come up with another method of suicide often makes them also question whether they actually want to do it or not. Having a big open fall on the other hand, offers a quick, convenient escape that someone who is feeling overwhelmed or desperate might be tempted by, even if they wouldn't do it if they had to actually make a plan.

    Empirical evidence suggests that restricting access to certain suicide methods is highly effective at preventing suicide, prompting the construction of physical barriers in many high-risk jumping locations. However, some have argued that these measures are too costly and only lead to method or location substitution.

    Results clearly show that physical barriers are highly effective at preventing suicide by jumping with little to no method or location substitution occurring. Furthermore, their cost is far outweighed by the monetary benefits of averted suicides.

    A related concept, requiring guns to be kept in nested containers where you have to open multiple layers has been shown to reduce road rage incidents. Every additional barrier provides a chance for you to remember yourself. And having an easy means of suicide around the house (such as a gun) increases suicide rates. People are not computers.

    If you ask me (or the scientists who have studied this), any large drop like this ought to have nets, and people on the internet can whine all they want about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Where did you get in my statement that I dislike suicide prevention?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    From the assumption that nets would only be installed as the result of a lawsuit and that the nets would cost the hospital money it doesn't have, when in fact they probably save the hospital money.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This is just how it works, in my experience. Most safety precautions are installed in response to a disaster, not in anticipation of one.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    You're assuming that public hospitals are well enough funded to use discretionary funding in this way. Even the best health systems do not carry a surplus.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    It literally saves the hospital money.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It's clearer as time goes on that you have no experience with public sector funding. You're just being contrary for its own sake.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago*

    My inner-child wanna play tag there.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    I think building an elevator there is a better option.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Naturally there are also several elevators at the place.

    But you must have other routes for exit that are easily available in the case of an emergency.

    Also many people aren't especially fond of elevators (me included).

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    The stairway stays. The elevator could be built in the "hole"

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    Elevators need a decent amount of surrounding space for cabling and for the counterweight. That all needs to be completely touch-proofed so people don't lose hands.

    The running rails etc. also have structural rigidity requirements. Bolting straight onto concrete slab works best and there's not enough concrete here.

    Fire stairwells often can't have anything put on them that could risk starting a fire, elevators included.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I'm no elevatorologist so soneone can correct me, but don't elevators need a lot of surrounding machinery in order to operate? Like, there needs to be weights and pulleys and all that. I image there would not be enough room for both that and the stairs.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    l am surprised that the hospital, being halfway closed because of non-profitability anyway, had enough funds left somewhere to even install the nets.

    A new elevator would probably have cost more than the whole building complex is worth by now...

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    non-profitability

    Ugh. I hate how that idea has worked its way into the collective consciousness.

    Healthcare is one of the cases where the market can’t work even in theory. There’s no upper limit to what people will spend, as a percentage of their net worth, to keep a child alive.

    It shouldn’t even be a conversation. Just “nope, hospitals cannot be profitable, they are a social good, we fund them as a society” end of fucking discussion.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 7 months ago

    hospitals cannot be profitable, they are a social good, we fund them as a society

    l live in Germany, a country with universal healthcare, so basically we do exactly that.
    So perhaps "profitability" is the wrong word here.

    But funds are still limited, and if the authorities determine that the money is used less efficient in one place than in another, they will consolidate and close the first place (that's happening for the hospital in the picture).

    We have reached, or even passed the limits of that aproach, though.
    Doctors and hospitals have to be realistically reachable for people and not a 100km away after all...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Local Mental hospital?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Ooo a grown ups playground!!! Can i go?

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