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Switching from openSUSE Tumbleweed (anarchist.nexus)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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Hi, everyone.

I've been running openSUSE Tumbleweed since the end of 2024. For awhile, it was good enough for me to stay on it and I left my Windows SSD alone.

That has changed recently with a newer game I want to play, just recently released. I've sudo zypper dup a couple of times now and it just won't play. I got tired of trying with my limited time, and booted back into Windows. I've been enjoying the game quite a lot, but I miss my Linux install. Luckily, I have everything backed up to a cloud provider so moving between the two, I don't lose or miss out on anything (EXCEPT MY PRIVACY).

So, with all this being said, I'd like to know what other think I should try out. Here are some of the distros I've got ready to try:

  1. CachyOS - This SEEMS like it would be a perfect fit for me up until the point that it might also give me the same issues openSUSE Tumbleweed is giving me right now, but I am always willing to give it a try!

  2. Debian - Stability is what I really want, but I also will need access to newer drivers and kernels since I play games both old and brand spanking new, so if I can get the newer drivers/kernel installed, this would honestly be my choice at this point.

  3. Fedora - Fedora is also a close contender to Debian since they are both considered stable. I tried Fedora on 42 or something, and found it lacking in game performance compared to openSUSE. That might've been a fluke, but it was enough for me to immediately switch back to SUSE.

  4. openSUSE Leap - This is just me wondering if using the not-so-bledding-edge version of openSUSE would be more up my alley. I have no idea on how hard or easy it would be to get newer GPU drivers and kernel on this, but surely it could be done?

Basically, I want both a stable system and a system that is updated enough to be able to play a brand new game on NVIDIA (I bought before I knew I'd be switching over to Linux full-time..). I am not into Linux for getting my hands dirty or for reading a manual on how to do something. I am mainly here to get away from Microsoft. The only thing I care about on this desktop is gaming. I also prefer KDE as the Desktop Environment, but will gladly use whatever will match the above!

Sorry for the long post, I just do not want to keep distro hopping hoping one will match my criteria above without any extra hassle (editing configs has ALWAYS busted my Linux systems, so since I'm just not smart enough to get weeds deep with Linux, I just want to boot it up, start a game, and play!). Hopefully some of you out there have similar needs for their machine and can help me out!

Thank you! :)

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[–] 11 points 7 months ago

Distribution has almost nothing to do with getting a game to run. I'd concentrate on the game specifics, collect logs, validate the files in Steam, try different Proton versions, check protondb, check if other games work, etc.

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    [–] 7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Does the game have kenal level anticheat? Because if it does, it doesn't matter what distro you choose, it's the anti-cheat blocking the game from starting.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    As far as I can tell, it doesn't. The game is Crimson Desert, which is a singleplayer only game. :-/

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Crimson Desert uses Denuvo. So I wouldn't count on it running correctly under Linux.

    Maybe it will, but it's not guaranteed.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    So from two seconds of Googling, it looks to be a proton issue, which zypper dup would do nothing to change. Proton versions are controlled from within steam.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago

    I figured it was. I also tried out the newest GE-Proton (10-33 I think?) and it also wouldn't start the game so I gave up and went back to Windows for now.

    When other newer games came out like Esoteric Ebb or the Oblivion remaster/remake, it played just fine on openSUSE. It's just one of those pain points that will generally never go away I suppose? :-[

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    crimson desert runs on my Tumbleweed install with a 3060 ti using proton GE.

    Consider checking any logs grep "SELinux is preventing" /var/log/audit/audit.log and/or journalctl to see if there's anything obviously stopping it from running. you can also try launching the game through a terminal and see if it says anything.

    some random things to try: see if there's a settings or config file you can play around with.

    try some of the proton tweaks on proton.db

    try both x11 and Wayland sessions.

    if its not installed already you can run zypper in selinux-policy-targeted-gaming

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the comment!

    I won't lie, when you said something about SELinux it reminded me of my horrible time with AppArmor the first time I installed openSUSE Tumbleweed. I think you may be on to something here with this SELinux thought. I think it is possible, but my memory is not always reliable, so I will ask for posterity sake, can AppArmor/SELinux not be installed on my openSUSE Tumbleweed? If I could do that, without any major drawbacks, I would just reinstall Tumbleweed and call it a day, as I do like mostly everything else about Tumbleweed. :-]

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    • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    I would recommend Nobara, which has a Nvidia-specific installation medium and comes from Glorious Eggroll (the GE in GE-Proton). Bazzite is also a fine choice. Both are based on Fedora.

    I wouldn't choose Debian for gaming if you can help it - Debian chooses stability instead of gaming as focus, which is fine for servers, but not for your usecase.

    But to be honest, I don't think openSuse is the reason for your issues - the probability is high that it's an issue with Proton or the Nvidia drivers. Try posting logfiles!

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    [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    Begin shilling:

    I roll with Bazzite-Testing which is more bleeding edge then Bazzite-Stable.

    Nvidia images available in Gnome as well.

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