until their maker gets an exemption

Ah, yes, how to ask for a bribe 101.

Let me guess, Don Jr. conveniently started a router company yesterday?

Here's a list of all the commercially available US made routers below

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Good hunting !

Everyone who is even remotely technically able and even slightly concerned about privacy needs to learn how to BYO router

It is possible (and now probably encouraged) to run router software on an old PC. You can also slot in a PCIE nic or connect it too a hardware switch and AP for more flexibility and control.

This won't stop your ISP from spying on you, but it will stop your American router manufacturer from spying on you.

Many people will soon find joy in slapping a 4-port NIC into an old PC and learning nftables, BIND9 and kea.

The covered list notes they use the National Security Determination definition of router which is as follows:

Routers: For the purpose of this determination, the term “Routers” is defined by National Institute of Science and Technology’s Internal Report 8425A to include consumer-grade networking devices that are primarily intended for residential use and can be installed by the customer. Routers forward data packets, most commonly Internet Protocol (IP) packets, between networked systems

So enterprise devices (which is where an attacker would focus their attention if they were looking for large payouts or political leverage) don't count, nor do APs or switches. That really just seems like an excuse to have a platform for the Feds to spy on their citizens.

It's always projection. This means the dark empire is weaponizing commercial drones and wifi routers and everything else. They don't want anyone to do to them, what they will now do to you.

Wait, it talks about FCC radio authorization. However that doesn’t make it a router, just an access point. Quite a few routers (thinking the Pro-sumer Uniquiti UXG models) don’t even have radios and aren’t wireless so there’s no radio they can withhold certification on. This could affect AIOs but all you’d have to do is separate your router from your AP.

Definitely sounds like a quickly thrown out, half baked shakedown (bribe) measure with something they could control (radio authorization) and just targeted routers since that’s a common place they are.

United on Spying on our Asses.

So... can I still flash custom firmware like OPNsense and Openwrt on them? Cause I literally just posted about hardware decision a few days ago 😭

Edit: It seems the article and actual FCC document will leave previous router models alone, but anything newer is cooked... Even the US brands like Cisco aren't actually manufactured here because we fucking outsource evrything. I hate this government.

They COULD just regulate these things...

looks dubious

I mean, I don't disagree that there are security risks posed by random consumer broadband routers. It is definitely the case that unmaintained

not intentionally shipped with malware

routers have been a real security problem in the past. My own view is that the current set of conventions, which often has very poor or no security on devices on the LAN and thus relies on the router to keep bad stuff out, is a very real part of that problem, but sure, having a secure router is part of that.

However.

I'd say that the majority of the threats that a router poses are also posed by any device on the LAN that can call out to the Internet. Like, you aren't doing a lot to secure devices on the LAN if you ban routers and then I can still go buy random gadget from wherever that can get on the WiFi or wired Ethernet network and phone home, take instructions from home, and can talk to other devices on the LAN. I mean, are you also going to ban, say, smart televisions? Ethernet-connected security cameras? I mean, poorly-secured network-connected cameras have posed very real threats in places like Ukraine, where military intelligence has actively exploited them to get information about an area come conflict.

And I just don't think that we're going to commit to locking that down.

At least this bans isreali routers

Ah yes, more security holes incoming. Gotta love maglomania (not sure if that is the correct word?)

Well, I tried to get y'all to stock up on drones a year ago

Unrelated: drones make a great Christmas gift for that recently laid off, benefits denied, recently diagnosed with a disease caused by known carcinogens in their everything, injured at work, under paid and exploited person you know.

Get em before they’re deemed a safety hazard and pulled from shelves.

For some reason the above comment gives an error of Error when viewed outside my comments.

https://lemmy.ca/post/34476205/13234882

Maybe I made them ban drones:

I may have suggested some things.

You may have to copy and paste that link - voyager refuses to open it.

OPNSense and a 2 NIC PC are all you need.

I was hoping to hold off on upgrading my modem and router until at least one of them died. Considering the nature of the Regime, I should just bite the bullet and spend some of my savings. That money will lose value anyways.

Costco is selling an BE19000 router for about $240. That is a bit cheaper than the same thing on Amazon.