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[–] 39 points 7 months ago (27 children)

I’m fascinated by the existence of so many foods. Who decided to boil tree sap for 3 weeks to make maple syrup? Who agitated cows milk vigorously for 20 minutes to discover butter? Who saw cheese for the first time and decided to still eat moldy milk?

I thank those nameless humans for their service to society.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Butter was discovered by accident when humans were still nomadic tribes. Milk was transported in animal skin bags and the agitation from travel turned it into butter. Probably being chased by something or running very fast.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    It's proposed that cheese was discovered the same way, when the rennet in sheep stomach sacks used to transport milk curdled the milk into curds and whey.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The question remains - how hungry must they have been to still eat that?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    They clearly had good cardio if they were agitating it that vigorously for long enough to make butter! Forget fitness watches, maybe I should wear a sack of milk at the gym to see if I’m working hard enough.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I think there's a lot of "dare you to eat that" in food history.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I think a lot of it boils down to, "we either eat it or starve."

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    blue cheese was discovered from a guy eating lunch in a cave, and leaving it unfinished to go talk to a pretty girl. when he came back months later the cheese had molded into blue cheese and he ate it and it was good

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Who though to stab a tree and collect the juice? I want that mf knighted

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yogurt is also very interesting, as its bacteria originates from ants. Who would think "hmm ants have infested my milk container but hey let me taste what they did to milk anyways"

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    You can just leave milk out at room temperature for a few days and you'll get yogurt. There's tons of lactobacilli floating around in the air and on every surface. You might need ants for a specific strain, but you don't need them if you just want any yogurt.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    The first one would have been obvious by the time Europeans reached the Americas because reducing things to increase the intensity of flavours by removing water would have been a known cooking technique for a long time by then (and I'm guessing would have been figured out soon after the invention of pots). Then, it would have been a matter of someone who was aware of that technique tasting raw sap, realizing it was sweet, then trying to extract the sugar through reduction, then discovering it's still pretty good as a syrup rather than dry sugar.

    And extracting sap from trees goes way back, as that's what frankincense and myr were (and disappointing to find out these "precious substances" just smell like church).

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Just wanna mention, you don’t need to boil maple sap for anywhere near that long to make syrup. It can be done in an afternoon unless you’re trying to make gallons.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Thus this custom of firing houses continued, till in process of time, says my manuscript, a sage arose, like our Locke, who made a discovery, that the flesh of swine, or indeed of any other animal, might be cooked... without the necessity of consuming a whole house to dress it.

    From the 1888 A Dissertation Upon Roast Pig

    Unfortunately the rest of it is pretty trash.

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  • [–] 69 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    I learned the other day that British have a delicacy called the toast sandwich which consists of a slice of toasted white bread between two slices of untoasted white bread with optional butter in between.

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  • [–] 41 points 7 months ago (4 children)
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    I've not heard of anyone else making such a thing, but not surprised it does exist. However, I can 1-up that with my childhood creation - the triple fold sandwich. One slice of buttered bread, one slice of buttered toast & one slice of butter fried bread. Fold each one in half, overlapping half of the adjacent piece. You get a mix of three different bready textures & flavours in each bite. I haven't made it in a few decades so I may not enjoy it so much now, but it was good at the time!

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Has anyone tried cooking it again? Projections show an incredible increase in flavor!

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    Update: my house burned down

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Answer: people said the crust was the best part of the bread. How can we get crust on more of the bread? Slice the bread and bake it again.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    And then you have those people who cut the crust off bread.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That proves my point. Do they toast their bread? Do they cut the crust off their toast?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I think this might be correlated with the type of bread. When you have the really sweet highly processed white bread, the crust tastes very bitter in contrast. With higher quality breads, the crust is just a little dryer, but not too different from the rest of the slice. I never liked bread crust as a kid, nor did my partner. But my kid never complained about crust and this is my hypothesis as to why.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    try making a loaf of bread with like 6-12 tbsp of chestnut honey, specifically chestnut. Eat some fresh but let it cool and toast it after. It goes with everything and it smells amazing. I eat it with ice cream for an unparalleled ice cream sandwich that make those store bought bricks look and taste like dirt in comparison.

    It's crazy because chestnut honey smells and tastes kinda not food like IMO. Like a mouthful of worn pantyhose that has done an office shift and then inhale through the nose. Not saying I've done that but that's just the image I have in my head from trying chestnut honey on its own.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Like a mouthful of worn pantyhose that has done an office shift and then inhale through the nose

    How'd you find my diary?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I've been waiting for a large portion of my life for someone who has tried chestnut honey to confirm or deny but chestnut honey is really rare here and I also can't confirm if there are multiple types of chestnut tree that would result in different flavour or aroma. I had two 1L jars of the honey from Slovenia, and one smaller jar from Italy several years later though so I expect it to be fairly consistent even from different hives.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Get a load of this guy who has beehives in entire groves of chestnut trees.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I wish, except kinda not really because chestnuts are gross. Back when I worked in a grocery store chestnuts were a decidedly rare item to see people buying too.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I thought chestnuts were like almost extinct?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I freaked out and looked it up and it seems like its only american chestnut that is critically endangered and european chestnut, which is most likely the one the honey I have tried was made from, is least concern.

    This is probably why I never heard of chestnut honey before going to europe and why even if you can find some here it's imported.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    In Germany we call bland white bread "toast bread" because it can only taste good when toasted.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, what we call "bread" in the US is "toast bread" in Germany. I've heard stories of Germans going to US supermarkets and wondering where the real crusty bread is.

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That photo looks more like a pancake than toast

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago*

    Dat Maillard reaction tho....

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I like to buy Chewy Chips Ahoy!™ and then finish cooking them.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Probably first did it to kill off mold

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Atleast the toast is on mute.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Accents like that and the shit cropping are becoming the sort of artifacts that authenticate a human touch. Like using dogs to weed out Terminators.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'll bet it was the french. Those motherfuckers LOVE maillard.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    You know the best part about this, you can put so much on toast. SOOOO much.
    Butter, syrups, jams, nut butters, or even just go plain and dunk it in something tasty (Hot Tomato soup in a mug, to dunk your lightly buttered toast is amazing).

    you know the best part above all else, you can toast nearly anywhere in 2026. There is USB powered toasters, as DC buck-converters easily take USB-PD and warm up some coils!

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Every potato should be cooked twice. It's the correct way

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    You may be interested in the German name for a type of rusk, “Zwieback”, which literally means “baked twice” (though with archaic, fossilised grammar)

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Is toast technically biscotti then?

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    Croutons have entered the chat

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Toast was all about finding ways to use stale bread again. It also kills mold.

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