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[–] 9 points 7 months ago

Williams F1 team did/does the same

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    [–] 175 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I always thought it looked cooler with the orange tank anyway

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Cooler with white, but heavier.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Cooler depends on the amount of sunlight available

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  • [–] 95 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    Orange makes it go faster. Not the fastest color but it's up there.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Although tbf all those achievements were by the Soviet space program, while Roscosmos has been… well, less successful especially recently thanks to all the money going to murdering Ukrainians

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    Back when NASA was flinging things into space for the first time, the tolerances that were even possible were extremely tight. Every pound mattered (every pound still matters, but because we have other things to do once we get to space nowadays, plus every pound is expensive).

    600 pounds of white paint for the fuel tank was considered unnecessary, once the engineering team figured that it didn't actually protect the special foam covering of the fuel tank anyway. Thus the distinctive orange color!

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  • [–] 99 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    For all the people in the world except the ones from Liberia, Myanmar and the United States, 600 freedom units = ~272 kg

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  • [+] -11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You can just give a conversion without being snarky about it

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  • [–] 39 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    I'm too dumb for maths because I have dyscalculia, but i am always amazed by the engineering crowd on how they could improve efficiency by finding and tweaking just the little things.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Its simple rocket math. Every lb of weight must consume fuel.

    Si.pky. 1 lb of weight needs 1 lb of fuel to escape orbit. But the fuel has weight also. So the effective fuel you need to lift the rocket and payload is exponential.

    The harder stuff is orbital mechanics. Getting things into orbit is easy. Having thwm go where you want is the hard part.

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    Good article for pointing out that specific rocket math. The optimistic tone of that article, though, is very much a product of its publication date of February 2020. The space programs have suffered major technical, financial, and political setbacks since then, and the geopolitical moment doesn't really lend itself to megaprojects like moon missions.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
    • Artemis tanks were 10m wide and 30m tall.
    • Cylinder surface Area = (2.pi.r^2^) * (2.pi.r.h) ^[curved area plus top and bottom circles]
      • 2 * pi * 5 * 30 ~ 1100m^2^ to paint
    • Paint paints about 10m^2^ per Litre paint
    • Need 1100 / 10 = 110 Litres of paint
    • 1L of paint weighs about 2kg
    • 110 Litres of paint weighs about 220kg
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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Til dyscalculia. I hope you weren't born in asia

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I am Asian 😂 I refuse to live up to the stereotype!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    So.. you're going to be a lawyer then?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I already work on STEM, without the E, but a little bit of M.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Fun fact: Columbia, pictured with the white tank, was the heaviest shuttle and was not modified to have the airlock necessary to dock with the ISS because the performance losses compared to the other shuttles made it difficult to use for ISS operations.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    But didn't it have ejection seats at one point?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    IIRC the original Shuttle design called for an ejection mechanism around the entire cockpit. During STS-1 and I believe STS-2, which was also Colombia, there were extra emergency mechanisms present, but I don’t think the seats themselves ejected through the roof like a fighter pilot’s would. For the most part though these were useless as they could not be used above 30,000 feet or something like that so it could only be used during the first minute or two of the flight.

    Several of the safety mechanisms and other things that were going to be part of the original design that had not already been scrapped for weight (like jet engines for powered decent) were scrapped for weight when the DOD stepped in and offered NASA extra money for the Shuttle if the Shuttle could hit very specific, higher and less fuel efficient, orbits. This came from an offhand comment that Jimmy Carter made, and then had to make good on the threats and implications of.

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  • [–] 50 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    High end bicycle equipment has weight specs in grams.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    But, why ? You drink a bit more water that day and it’s void.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's a competition between brand. They're at the point where decrease a single gram is incredible task and are all racing to become the lightest weight and aero-est bicycle and get to claim that.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    And then you have E bike companies producing lead bricks that are non-functional without the motor doing 90% of the work. Or with the massive motorcycle seats that make pedaling actually impossible.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The real question is why the default color is orange and not white or gray.

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  • [–] 61 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The polyurethane spray foam insulation is orange.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    SIX HUNDRED EL BEES? HOLY FUCK THAT'S A LOTTA PAINT.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Remove all the tanks and shit on the bottom to really save weight and just let the shuttle fly? It's not rocket science.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    "Lower the inertial mass." -- Miles O'Brien, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Season 1, Episode 1.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Though isn't that decreasing the aerodynamics and increasing the friction?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    No the purpose of the white pant was to help keep the external tank cool to reduce fuel boil off. The foam insulation was incredibly rough, not something a thin layer of paint could smooth over.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but does it have protective properties? Like idk maybe it adds corrosion resistance or sth

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