This is a likely scenario in the second round according to polls.

The election is in 10 days.

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[–] 21 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

How's the person who's currently leading the polls?

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Welp, once again, it seems it's a bit biased.

    Dati is very much right leaning, and very much under investogation too.
    Her lawyer made a website shutdown that was listing all her cases.

    Chikirou is trully such a strange choice. Even tho LFI IS left leaning (far from being tankies tho), Chikirou is... An anomaly ? She has been caught doing homophobe comments, and lately, has made a very strange comment about people not wanting to work 50 hours a week...

    I'm not Parisian myself, and if I were to vote acording to my values, the party that would represent it better would be LFI (but not Chijirou, so tough choice), but the "best scenario" would be for Gregoire to be elected.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    Even tho LFI IS left leaning (far from being tankies tho),

    In 2022, Finland 🇫🇮 and Sweden 🇸🇪, requested to join NATO due to threats from Russia.

    It required a vote in the French Parliament.

    Every political party voted "Yes". Except two:

    🔴 Rassemblement National: Abstention.

    🔴 LFI: Against.

    https://datan.fr/votes/legislature-16/vote_184

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    After all these things that are happening, if you still consider that anyone becoming a military slave to USA is a good idea... I don't know what to tell you.

    Those countries are already EU countries. Russia will not dare to touch them. And if they do, then being in or out of NATO would become the smallest of our problems at that point.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago

    A EU real defence policy would be better, but countries under immediate threats (3--4 years away) curiously lack that patience.

    So until we have a real credible alternative to NATO, this is the only alliance available! NATO is not just about promises of mutual help. It includes military cooperation, joined exercises, etc. so that if shit hits the fan, allied military are ready to fight together in an integrated framework.

    And that does not prevent NATO members from purchasing non-US equipment, which is what the EU has put up as a policy. France is actually a very good proof of that.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You label Chikirou "investigated for fraud" and what about Dati ?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I know shit about parisian politics. What happened with Dati?

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    A website was put up to track all the cases in which sehe's investigated, because yes, we needed that!

    https://wikidati.fr/

    She's investigated for corruption (several different and independent cases), using public money to pay her personal lawyer, she abuses procedures to shut up journalists (that one is now legal but doesn't make you a less shitty person) and others.

    Oh, and she faked her resume to get in a prestigious university-like institution.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    it's incorrect to call LFI "tankies" ☞ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_France_Insoumise

    while promoting the second choice that's supported by PCF ☞ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_communiste_fran%C3%A7ais

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I thought i'd heard the local arrodissement populace had a lot of say over what happens in their neighborhood?

    That was given as a reason Paris could reduce cars much faster than many cities , as Paris seems less dominated by the median suburban voter.

    It's shite if that 's not true. Paris seems so chill these days; at least in contrast to 20 years ago.

    So what exactly are these elections for? Can they really go to an arondissement and remove all the pro-pedestrian stuff? Is that in their power - if the residents don't want it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I’m far from an expert on current Parisian politics, but I can confirm that the mayor of Paris doesn’t preside over a lot of suburban area. Not sure for the power of the mayors of the individual arrondissements.

    map of Paris and surroundings

    The (populated) area inside the red line is basically all high density so the people actually doing the voting should be rather in favour of fewer cars and better transit. The surrounding suburbs — where there are more carbrains — are different administrative units so they don’t really have a say in how central Paris is run.

    In many areas (e.g. Toronto), these suburbs also vote for the mayor and tend to block progress. I think this is also part of how Paris can make rapid progress— the voters actually live in the city proper.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    OP is asking about arrondissements, not suburbs. Arrondissements are a subdivision inside Paris, and they do have their own mayor. But they have less power, it's more of an administrative position. 50 years ago they were selected by the state, not elected, then the position of mayor of Paris was created, so the position for the arrondissements is more of a leftover of shifting things around.

    But your post does answer why Paris can actually make those changes, yes. And no, the arrondissement mayors don't make those decisions.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Montreal's arrodissement system/controls also greatly benefited it's cycling growth.

    Though the suburbs that are part of la ville de Montréal are gerenally less cars brained than suburbs that are not part of la vdm. So that is probably a big factor. That said, the biggest suburbs (and the ones directly north and south of la vdm) are putting big effort into their active and public transit; so maybe not.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    AFAIK the arrondissement councils don't have much power. The reason usually given why Paris was able to reduce cars much faster is that there aren't really any suburbs in Paris, they're all outside and therefore have no vote. And Paris voted for a mayor with the political will to actually kick out the cars. I'm not up to date on why they're now shifting towards the right, might just be the general trend in the world.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    This poll comissioned by Le Parisien and Sud Radio, might be a little tiny bit biased in favor of Dati. I very highly doubt that a 3rd of Parisiens when to vote for her.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I feel like you could only really fight a car once, and it probably wouldn't be very competitive.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Hidalgo should have run again

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Ah fuck off with your LFI slander, standing by social liberals will do nothing but perpetuate the system as it exists

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Oh wow stated by a .ml user how shocking

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Wow I joined a community that wasn’t actively hostile to my morals and beliefs, how astute of you to notice

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  • [+] -19 points 8 months ago* (10 children)
  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Are you claiming tankie is a slur?? Seems real insensitive towards actually marginalized people

    You can admire their public transport without supporting the government, what are you on about? "Since I'm anti-car I have to support the persecution of Uyghurs"

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  • [+] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    It's a useful shorthand, not a slur. +1 for calling libs "dronies" though, that's hilarious

    Again, you can admire their public transport without supporting the government, what are you on about? Why are you trying to link 2 unrelated things even harder now?

    Interesting info in that article though. According to it, they've transitioned from putting uyghur in camps to putting them in prisons which doesn't seem better to me

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Left-punching slur? What are you talking about.

    You can have leftist ideas without being a tankie.

    Do you know what tankie means?

    Edit: oh, you're a tankie (cf. Uygur genocide denial). No wonder you aren't smart enough to tell the difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Your argument would make sense if ms Chikirou was not a textbook definition of tankie.

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