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[+] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    As soon as I got a bike path near my home that led to my grocery store, I stopped driving to the grocery store. This only happened when two bike routes were linked together, since I live off an arterial street. You either have to be willing to put in a huge stretch of bike lanes all over, all at once, or be willing to put up with a few stretches of underutilized bike lane until enough are added that they become usable. With your mindset, you could never go from no bike support to having bike supporting infrastructure.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Ah yes, the ol' "this project is stupid because it isn't finished yet" argument. 🙄

    By the way:

    and then are inevitably lucky if you see anyone using them.

    That's often not because they aren't being used; it's because bike lanes have 2-3x the capacity of general-purpose lanes. They look a lot less busy even when they're carrying the same number of vehicles.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Yes, actually. I'm not inclined to dig through my comment history to find it, but a while back, somebody posted an image of a street in the UK and complained that hardly anybody used the bike lane. I counted, and pointed out that in that very image, there were more humans in the bike lane than in the car lane. It just looked empty because cars are such a tremendous waste of space.

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    [–] 33 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Can we object to car lanes?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    On a street near where I live, the neighbors are vocally opposed to a bike lane, and they keep using the line that the city should "consider the needs of the people who live there." I keep asking them on NextDoor if the city should listen when I object to car traffic on my street.

    Nobody ever has an answer.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It cannot be the case that cycling infrastructure is discussed pracemeal like this. Would the public be asked about installing a new pedestrian sidewalk? No because it's considered normal for a street to have a sidewalk. If a national safety standard for multi-modal infrastructure were in place, these kinds of questions would become uncontroversial.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Gray said: "It happens with every single scheme like this, when it goes to consultation people do not want change, and they say they don't want it.

    "But councils need to understand that delivering these schemes is popular in the long run once we get over the hill of hysteria."

    A trial took place on the road in 2022 to study the impact of removing the middle lane.

    While a survey found that journey time increased by 30 seconds between Barley Farm and Peel Green roundabout, concerns were raised about lengthy delays for local residents.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Where do you find out about this kind of thing? Not yet heard anything about outrage locally but if there was I would want to make it clear not everyone is opposed to it

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