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[–] 98 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

Genshin and ZZZ have been running fine from the official installer in a Proton Prefix for years now. They use a different anticheat from the two Honkai games for some reason.

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  • [–] 137 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    You can run Genshin Impact on Linux

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is this the kernel-level spyware list?

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This is how i find out that they broke Apex on linux. Used to run just fine.

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  • [–] 89 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    I know a lot of you don't care if these games run or not, but really does suck they don't. I've talked to quite a few people that wouldn't switch to Linux because X game doesn't run on it.

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  • [–] 46 points 8 months ago

    Yeah this is only a win if you don't play those games. Unfortunately these games are intensely popular and the lack of compatibility stunts the popularity of Linux. I expect there is a similar anti-meme of this list titled "why I'll never install Linux"

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Mechwarrior 2 Titanium trilogy, arguably the best games EVER MADE (fight me, wetnose) doesn't really run on anything beyond Windows 2000. I simply refuse to update to any OS that doesn't retain the functionality of my games.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why not run linux on your main and have a Windows 2000 Virtual Machine?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Because I don't really run Windows 2000 on my main machine. It was sarcasm.

    Plus... Running mint on my main, and I've tried a couple of emulators and VMs to try to run MW2 and none of them do a good job of it, especially if you want to use a controller or joystick. Frankly, If I had a real heavy hankering for my vintage games, I'd just build an airgapped legacy system specifically for running that game.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    the only times i've had trouble playing a game on linux are when the developer specifically fucks with it so it won't run on linux. the main reason for that is kernel-level anticheat software, which, from what i've heard, doesn't really help with cheating much anyways. my computer is my computer, i don't need microsoft or some game company going into my kernel. can't wait for some drm company to get hacked and have windows gamers up in arms because they got ransomewared.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Agreed, I switched my gaming rig to Linux for 6 months and was so excited to get things working. Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends, and would often have to mess with Proton versions (again) to get the game working.

    I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2's early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.

    Still rocking Linux on my non-gaming devices though, aside from SteamDeck.

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends,

    Shame.

    I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2's early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.

    Shame, shame, shame.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What would you recommend I do so that I wouldn't have ran into those issues? Suck it up and keep dealing with the headaches?

    I'm no fan of Windows either, but it lets me play games when I want to play them.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    People will always come up with a reason to stay with what they have.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    And other people will always come up with a reason you need to leave what you have even if it satisfies your need.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Um, acktchuailley Linux can run Genshin through An Anime Launcher.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I imagine Linux can run most of those. Odds are the OP just didn't try hard enough.

    What is completely understandable.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago*

    Runs Genshin impact: ✅

    Runs the launcher: ❌

    It works pretty well on proton. It's just the launcher that doesn't. So you need to update using a VM or windows, then run the exe instead.

    It's been a while though, and I haven't tried playing it since before the volcano update. I think star rail is the same, but Honkai Impact 3rd doesn't work, even in VMs

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    linux got just a little worse pretty recently: roblox is now playable on it

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Well, good that my ol pal rimworld works like a charm

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I've got a decent rig and rimworld chokes at a reasonable farmyard size. What's your secret?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    how many hundred mods you have

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I have zero mods. I ran a Ryzen 5 5600x RTX3070 with 16gb ram and I eventually got like 150 ducks or something and every few seconds the computer started to pause and think. It was eventually unbearable. I googled it and thought it was my overall number of beings in the area. So I started wholesale duck slaughter and I think it got better. I have a better computer now haven't gone back yet. Are you telling me it's not my PC?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    My mostly-vanilla (ie mods don't hugely change gameplay/add anything crazy) Rimworld runs fine on my probably what's considered mid-range PC. I second the other commenter; you probably need to cut back on the mods.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    When I was using fedora I was using faugus launcher, now I'm driving arch and lutris works like a charm, u need to try to tinker a bit. Try using wine-ge or proton experimental. Maybe there are missing vulkan liberies. Whats your GPU? And can u somehow dm me? Im new lemmy user so I'm not very familiar yet with any features

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    You can use https://launcher.moe/ 's software for Hoyo games btw. The top one is the one for Genshin Impact.

    Though last I installed Genshin on Linux I remember there being a slight chance of getting banned because you had to disable the anticheat to run it on Linux, but I never had it happen to me and I'm not sure if that's still valid.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Last I played the game was single player... fuck these companies man

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    The game still is mostly single player. But, as most gacha games, Genshin Impact is online-only, mostly so that you couldn't cheat in any resources you want without paying them a hefty price.

    It was like that from the very beginning.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't get very far thought it was dumb... so i guess thats why lol

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    My experience with Genshin Impact: -Tried it (Only the starter region, Mondstadt), thought it was healthily dynamic, but ultimately very childish -Left it for about 2 years -Then my gf has shown me what goes beyond and I had to accept the game has merits

    The storytelling beyond Mondstadt gets a more serious turn, presents interesting and divisive dilemmas and unexpected plot twists - so much so that I wouldn't recommend it to children, actually. The battle mechanics also change and deepen as you unlock new characters and visit new regions.

    Still, gacha mechanics heavily ruin the game for me. I'm here for the story, not the endless casino. Wish I would get my own private server up and running at some point in the future to remove these mechanics and just play to my heart's content.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    and it runs mafia the old country, which doesn't have multi player crap or microtransactions, so yeah, absolute win

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)
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    Warframe - Linux: ✅️

    Conclusion, Linux wins.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago

    Idc for any of these games. So yeah, Linux wins.

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  • [–] 77 points 8 months ago (24 children)

    Unpopular opinion: these memes always have ‘I am very smart’ energy on Lemmy. The issue is that these companies should support Linux not that your personal taste in video games means it’s a good thing that they don’t.

    I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort. So I haven’t switched. My best friend has switched and made the changes necessary and is forever troubleshooting issues.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I agree with you that these memes are a little silly, but I also agree with the overall point that it's actually good that these games don't run on Linux. It has nothing to do with my personal taste in these games though, and everything to do with privacy violations via kernel-level anticheats, and getting people addicted via dark patterns like microtransactions, gacha, and FOMO-inducing battlepasses.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I built a computer for my uncle and his kids and installed Linux on it. My cousin wanted to play Fortnite, and I tried to pitch it to him as a feature instead of a bug. But a couple weekends ago, I caved and installed dang Windows 11 for him.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    You caved to the megacorps immense pressure on kids to recruit and devulge their friends and peers desires so that the hypercapitalist pedo lords can Harvest them D: with knowledge that this goes on? Based.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    I realized that I'm not going to win him over by being a jerk about it. Sometimes, all you can do is give people the space to come to the right conclusion themselves.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I realize it's too late now, but as I've posted before on Lemmy: you can "run" Fortnite on Linux well enough by using a game streaming service like Luna or GeForce Now. It's the only game I run that way on my PC and only because my kids enjoy teaming up with me in BRs.

    I mention it because it seems like most people aren't aware it's an option (even on Windows, if you want to avoid rootkits on your system). Not for everyone, but you can technically stick to your principles/security and still play (some of) those kinds of games.

    Proceed with sanctimonious bellyaching below:

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oh neat, I hadn't even thought of that! I think it'll be a hard sell to switch him back, but I'll keep this option in mind. I'm just hoping he grows out of it haha.

    My brother has been interested in switching to Linux but he's into those kind of games too. I'll recommend him to try it out!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The neat thing is he can try it before switching from windows to see if it's something he's cool with. When I first started using Luna there were random input lag spikes but I haven't had that problem in months. The only real downside is sometimes it seems like my voice/chat settings get reset (I like to turn off voice and text chat because toxicity).

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    No, no, no - this is all wrong. I don't consider you a person unless you self-flagellate at the terminal daily, compiling from source in dependency hell while being cleansed by the vim fires at the altar of Tux.

    This species of Linux user reminds me quite a lot of Catholics.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You're shadowboxing with a nonexistent Linux user. People do that kind of stuff as a hobby, not for status. Most people who are into that sort of thing are too asocial to use any social capital they might have anyway.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Lol, is that what you tell yourself every day to justify staying with Windows? Do you convince yourself by imagining Linux users suffering?

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    And I don't use the terminal every day and install apps from the application manager.

    If you have chosen a distro that forces you to use the terminal or install apps from source code, that's your choice, not a condition for all Linux users.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You're clearly not who I'm talking about then.

    I've used various distros as daily drivers for over 20 years. Debian-based is comfy for me. So is the terminal, but I'll use a gui if it suits the situation. If I need a software package I install it in whatever way works, whether that's building from source and fighting through dependencies, composing a docker image, unpacking a static .deb or clicking 'install' on flat hub. I'm aware of the differences, and issues folks have, and I have my own preferences as well, but I mostly just don't care. It's all free (gratis) software, which I'm glad even exists. If it's truly libre, even better, I'm all about that. Given 2 functionally equivalent packages I'll always pick the most libre one. At the end of the day, I don't feel the need to run an ideologically pristine system. I need it to work.

    I clearly touched a nerve, lol, but there's no need to get defensive.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort.

    Anything that isn't a game can typically be run on a virtual machine.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    So, the software that runs the features on my mouse and headset run on a VM. Then I play the games in the base OS with those features like software driven surround sound?

    This is actually similar to the situation I came across with my friend. “Everything works 100% it’s crazy!” Sweet! How’d you get the customisable mouse buttons working? (He has the same mouse as me) “There are extra mouse buttons? Oh, there are! I never noticed. No, they don’t work anymore”. 😑

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    So it's not software that doesn't work but hardware that's weird then? Sure, makes sense.

    Next time you buy hardware look it up. Once you're on stuff that'll work in Linux you should be able to jump over easily then.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So it's not software that doesn't work but hardware that's weird then? Sure, makes sense.

    It’s a gaming mouse (I’m guessing you’re unfamiliar) with customisable buttons. The buttons work best with the software and the software doesn’t work natively on Linux, as previously mentioned.

    I wish Linux was seamlessly transitionable but you seem to be saying that I should change to suit Linux. The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

    Eh, not really dude. Linux cannot possibly account for each and every unique hardware combination that is put to market -- some of which are being invented as I type this sentence.

    Some hardware is written with firmware that falls outside of standards and specs and some hardware producers are actively hostile to people providing support for their hardware on alternative platforms. Computer hardware and peripherals are a huge market with lots of players. I'm saying if Linux support is important to you, then make it part of your evaluation criteria when you buy new hardware. Or don't if it isn't.

    Linux doesn't have significant enough consumer market share to pressure hardware manufacturers into providing support for them, and it also is a free operating system -- not one helmed by a massive multi-national corporation that can use billions of dollars to pressure hardware manufacturers into following their whims.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Everything I can find tells me Genshin has been running on Linux for three years. Haven't tried it though

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    GTAO is pretty fun if you carefully dupe money all the time. I come back to it occasionally.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Ah man Xbox got SO close though.

    Oh well, soon it won’t run at all…

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    You mean to tell me that Genshin Impact is more than just a hentai franchise...?

    And let me guess, next you'll say the same thing about Overwatch.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I miss peak Destiny 2 tho. It was the only reason I dual booted for many years.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Same, I got in just and the end of the good stuff so didn't have that long to really enjoy it. I did love my time playing but there was so much that made it clear it was only gonna get worse. Seeing Bungie fall like that really sucked, they had been my favorite game dev all the way since halo 1, and look at them now...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I play Genshin Impact on Linix just fine :)

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Quite a few of these games are in geforce now and geforce now has an official linux client now

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Uh almost all of these run great on Linux proton, the one exception being GTA online because of the anti cheat.

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