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The Ayatollah is the spiritual leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Jeffery Epstein is the spiritual leader of the 2025 USA regime
Not going to defend him, but a Pedophile led nation executing/kidnaping foreign heads of states and bombing schools is not a good thing.
the way my Iranian friends have put it as they celebrate the death of the head of the regime and brace themselves for the impact of the new regime is that when you live under opression all your live, you learn to celebrate the small stuff, even as you know what's coming will also be bad
regardless of regime changes, nothing good comes from American interventions
in the grand scale absolutely. nothing ever good comes from foreign interventions. a people must be given the tools to liberate themselves rather than have it decided for them what is best
the US doesn't want to liberate jack shit, they just want a puppet state
So long as they don't democratically elect a socialist. Otherwise they're getting a Western-backed far-right dictator forced on them instead to "prove socialism doesn't work."
I mean this regime is a continuation of a regime change that was also installed by US and UK about 40 years ago (correction 80 years ago and also perhaps better to emphasise not ideological continuation but a new regime due to instability formed in the country). And more recently in any place where US has been involved in a regime change (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt and Syria among others), the country is left to the mercy of religious cults or warlords after a great proportion of civilian infrastructure is bombed out of existence.
So yeah, I agree.
You got the timeline wrong there. The US installed the Shah in the 50s, after destroying Iran's democratic leftist government. Then in the 70s, the Iranian people rose up and removed the Shah. Almost immediately, though, the revolution was hijacked by fundamentalist clerics.
When the revolutionary government was put under pressure by an invasion from Saddam Hussein on behalf of George Bush Snr, which killed millions, that allowed the Revolutionary Guard to consolidate power, and become the brutally repressive government we see today.
Imagine your neighbor is an abuser who beats his wife and children, and you want to help them. so you kick their door, beat the husband, beat the wife, kill one of the kids, and set their house on fire.
I mean, it put back the progress on an even more terrorist regime getting nuclear weapons
*when you live your whole life under the effect of unilateral sanctions, designed specifically to punish civilians living their life in order to create political change (aka terrorism)
especially considering that over 100 schoolgirls were murdered in the process.
if a bomb killed 150 children and also took out Trump, I wouldn't celebrate it
The deaths of children will forever prevent america from being a hero here. So we've just created a new enemy, likely a more cunning one than the last.
that's the point. make sure there are always people who hate America with all their soul. so there's always a justification for the US to be a military state.
this is largely how we know i live in a terror state. america needs enemies to justify its continued imperial project so it will go out and manufacture them
when I say, cruelty is the point, this is why. that's why they do family separation, what's why ensure people suffer, both domestically and internationally. it's an investment in future targets
reasons to resist fascism:
- basic fucking empathy, you shouldn't need more you jackass
- oh? you need more you fucking sicko? fine. how about this. if the state is indescriminantly killing, it will only be a matter of time until it thoughtlessly kills you by "mistake"
- jesus christ, you still need convincing? my god. okay. here you go. you reap what you sow. in 20 years the children who see what you're doing will be adults. there will be no forgiveness in their hearts for the parents, brothers, and sisters you killed. so maybe don't give them a reason to hate you
but fascist apologists lack empathy and they lack the critical thinking skills to be moved by the other two
you can't debate or convince them. best is ignore it and use that energy to build a better community without their input or consent.
I would celebrate Trump death but not the 150 children. Gotta learn to compartimentalize and all that, in a complex world.
you shouldn't compartmentalize that operation Epstein has slaughtered 150 schoolgirls. you should be furious.
This world is full of evil, we have to be willing to take in what little good we can get for what it is until people start doing really better. If Operation Epstein kills 150 schoolgirls and Trump, I of course won't be celebrating that 150 schoolgirls are dead, but also I'm not going to lie or omit that Trump dying is the only good thing coming out of that. What, you want me to lament that Trump is dead?
i will not tell them how to think or feel. the old regime killed their families. the new regime will likely finish the job. iran, israel, the united states. none are working or fighting on behalf of the Iranian people. i will help them as they work to survive, but i will not moralize to them that they're wrong to feel how they feel about things that impact them directly
There's already a war against them by their own government that's killed over 30,000 Iranians since late December. Civilians are being slaughtered either way, but this way means that maybe the Ayatollahs won't be in power at the end.
Have you not learned from Iraq? There is always another mullah. Al Quida was replaced by ISIS. WTF are we involved with the ME anymore? I mean, all those ME nations bombed by Iran, who encouraged the US to enter this (besides our welfare state Israel), well where are their fucking militaries? I guess they paid the Trump family off and felt they had hired their military of the US so our sons and daughters can die for those MFs. Need I remind people we send Israel over 3.8 Billion every year from our tax dollars? so... USAID and VOA does not deserve our few millions but Benji gets the billions and more in crisis and now American deaths. For those that cite 19 fucking 79 hostages... understand, our enlisted were not even born yet. They have no memory of that. Also... most were not even born by 1983 either. And the fact is, the federal military policy allowed that shit to happen.
He was going to die anyway. Why spend blood and treasure to murder a man who is 86 with a cancer diagnosis? Is critical thinking absent in our Pentagon? Yeah, lets get rid of this mullah... there are over a hundred other mullahs to take over for him. This is an established regime that has been in place for 50 years. 1 in 8 citizens in Iran work for the government... over 94 million population.
The fun thing is your statement applies to both the US and Iran.
All of a sudden this bothers you? lol your terrorist nation has been doing this non stop forever. You guys bomb my country, treat my people with racism, you leave us the mess and move on, and pretend it never happened. Then you turn around and criticize other nations. It’s a big facepalm seeing so many young leftists acting like this is new
you're making a lot of assumptions about me, I've been protesting almost every week for years, local antiwar org I work with has been organizing weekly protests since 2003.
this bs aggression isn't new, but I refuse to desensatise myself.
I have been active with my local antiwar org since the 1980s. It never fucking ends. But when the stupid people elect a felon.. what did we expect?
Nice! Now do Putin, Trump and the rest of the dictators
Can we include the plutocrats and oligarchs? That seems to be the root of the problem.
So easy to take care of Iran, but so hard to take care of Russia.
Seeing the USA waltz in dropping bombs over literally nothing but ignoring the Ukraine is pretty bizarre.
Fact is that Ayatollah was 86 and had cancer... he was going to die anyway probably in the next 5 years. We didn't have to engineer 30K protesters murdered and 150 schoolgirls killed along with him and his wife. We could have been patient, like the Chinese. After all, it is not like Iran has a shortage of mullahs.
in 1979 the US placed Shah, who looted Iran was ousted. Now we are supposed to champion his son to rule? Some Nepo baby? This administration is straight up incompetent and globally dangerous.
Fuck him. And also fuck the US and Israel. As an outsider this is just all villains fighting each other.
this is just all villains fighting each other
...and civilian collateral damage, unfortunately.
With innocent, normal people caught in the crossfire. If those cunts would simply kill each other, fine. But it's always other people getting hit too.
I have a list of world leaders whose death'll make me happy. These are people that make the world better by dying.
As an American. Fuck my current administration. I can still say that for now. Let’s see how long it lasts.
I am sure the hundred schoolgirls were also villains fighting each other
To Iran they were just going to be new protestors to kill.
Fuck all 3 of these authoritarian shit stains.
I hate the regime in Iran. I have a dear friend who was victimized by it. But also hate Benji N's Israel and D. Trump and most of the ME surrounding who have done nothing for decades to control Iran. Oh noes! We have no ideas and no strategy so lets just send the Trump family a lot of money!
are you justifying a warcrime against a school because they could have died in the future???
If you get murdered, is the murderer innocent because it is possible someone else would have murdered you later?
Shitlibs logic
How did you misread that so badly?
you can't preemptively murder children because in your fan fiction they die later on
You agian missed two very important words that OP wrote
To Iran
That means if you were Iran then you would be having those thoughts. Not someone normal.
wait, being Iranian means it's ok for USA/Israel to kill Iranian schoolgirls?
if someone else wants to kill you, does that give me the moral right to kill you first?
Are you being willfully dense right now?
Some asshole on one of the forums I frequent stated that there was questionable information about the school. I responded that there was questionable information regarding his ethics and partisanship and I not only got blocked but my response was rejected... perhaps 'CULT' is a trigger word?
these morons don't think iran had a plan if their 86 year old leader died?
The morons orchestrating these attacks are doing so to distract other morons from the sex and child trafficking crimes they committed.
Morons all the way down. Unfortunately these morons have access to ballistic missiles.
These morons dont understand martyrdom because their lives are spiritual vacuums.
Not that I like this guy he deserves to rot in the same cesspit as Trump and Netanyahu (and more). But this post looks like rage bait.
Only idiots brain rotted by Iranian propaganda would be upset by that asshole's death.
The guy executed something like 30K people in the last month. What kind of shit person supports a guy like that?
INB4 WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT
There is no what abouts. I am glad he is dead. But I am also sorry Iranian people have been suffering at the hands of Russia, USA and Israel for the better part of the last century. Netanyahu, Putin, Trump are no different than him in terms of how merciless and inhumane they can be.
Nobody's complaining about his death here. But everybody should be worried about this new trend of Trump deciding who's deemed fit to rule and who's not.
This is obviously weakening Trump, so it's killing two birds with one stone. You never know Americans seem to love him no matter what, but it looks like he's lost a lot of support. So the Ayatollah is dead and maybe Americans will get their head out of their asses and actually vote for the political opposition.
A result of UK/US interference prior to the shah which led to islamic revolution.
didnt ran like the rat netanyahu lol
He did, as much as he could once he learned shit was going down, but it turns out Iran's intelligence, air defense and operational security all suck so he died in his bunker. He's killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks. Bibi is absolute trash, but to pretend like Khamenei was better in any way is insane. They're both completely evil cowards.
They’re both completely evil cowards.
Perhaps more than one person or side can be bad at the same time.
Lemmy reaction : 16/14
Iran has been terrible at everything so far. I keep joking that they put huge arrows you can see from space with the naked eye showing where all their leaders, scientists, and generals are.
Iran must know they're infiltrated from top to bottom by Israel, no? Especially after those "abandoned trucks" filled with drones thing?
he’s killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks
Sure buddy, thats nice opinion, did epstien give it to you?
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