Your argument is a perfect example of men feeling attacked when a woman tries to correct them.

Forgot the whole part where I pointed out the many, many examples of male role models out there.

He's an interesting character. Ultimately, he is good, and, depending on the era in the comics, he nearly bankrupts his company trying to follow in his father's footsteps.

He's also an archetype for fear and vengeance. His parents' death motivates him to act against the corruption exposed in the justice system. He starts off as a young hooligan out for revenge, but with a solid ideology behind it — he thinks he's saving people. Once he sees that violence begets violence, he tried to address the problems at the root and ultimately hangs up the mask.

Most characters in Batman, including Bruce Wayne himself, have major trauma in their past. There are a lot or orphans, criminals by necessity, abused kids and victims of crime themselves. This was big for an era where people just did not talk about those things at the dinner table.

In some comics they explore sci-fi means of removing trauma, to expose ones "true self." While it breifly improves people's lives, it just leaves the subjects more vulnerable and less resilient.

Batman comics really explore how our past influences who we become, but also points out that everyone suffers, it's what we do with that suffering that counts. Not only that, but learning from your past in a constant process.

Batman isn't everyone's role model, but he is a role model.

No kidding. I didn't learn about a lot of women in science and arts until university, and even then it was sparse. My entire first year philosophy course didn't talk about a single woman. I didn't even learn about Rosalind Franklin and Lise Meitner until a feminist instructor brought them up, recommending books outside of the curriculum.

A friend of mine, a guy, went on tour with a show about Lise Meitner around the time Oppenheimer came out, so people could learn about one of major contributors to the science nuclear fission who isn't really talked about. That guy is one of my role models.

Minorities and queer folks are absolutely missing representation, as a socialist queer person.

My comments have nothing to do with the imbalanced incarceration and vilification of men and everything to do with the thousands, possibly millions of role models men can choose to learn from.

I grew up with all male role models because we just didn't talk about major female contributions in school, and most women in fiction were relegated to side characters and love interests. No, it's not a competition to see who has it worse, it's a fact that citing incel talking points is not helping men see the world of potential beyond whatever "couple piece of shit role models" you're talking about.