In previously unreported remarks, the U.S. administration warned Brussels that it will retaliate if Europeans โ€œstrong-arm American companies out of the market.โ€

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[โ€“] 50 points 8 months ago

These are the champions of "free market", everybody. You have to step up defense spending "iT's fOr yOuR oWn SafEty". No, not like that. Pathetic

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  • [โ€“] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Oh no, this is not what the US had in mind when the military industry lobby pushed the US government to strong arm Europe into spending more on defense.

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  • [โ€“] 22 points 8 months ago

    Always the same shit from them: you have to buy our stuff.

    The hide of them expecting more effort toward Ukraine but it must be purchased from the US. Same bullshit excuses too.

    Keep standing up to them Europe.

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They should be lobbying in Washington, not in the EU. Wrong addressee. But trust has already been destroyed anyway. Even if a more friendly government comes to power in Washington.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 8 months ago

    The US is the largest arms exporter in the world. It would be amazing if that were made no longer true.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 8 months ago

    Something about a pot and a kettle.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 8 months ago

    Where is my "You Have No Power Here" meme when I need it?

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  • Never give in to bullies.

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    [โ€“] 104 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    ยซYou need to become more self reliant, and take more responsibility..ยป ยซNOOO, not like that ๐Ÿ˜ญยป

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  • [โ€“] 53 points 8 months ago

    Why? To have a kill switch or an inferior grade in every advanced weapon as Trump himself said?

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  • [โ€“] 82 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So let me get this straight. From the US admin we hear.

    -NATO countries cannot rely on USA to help them if they need us. -NATO countries should be ensuring they can defend themselves.

    But also -You'd also still better buy all your shit from us!

    They're like the stereotypical bully.. "Stop hitting yourself"

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  • [โ€“] 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    No surprise. This is why they want counties to increase their military spending. To increase the money pouring into the military industrial complex.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes.

    I mean itโ€™s great if the NATO members spend equally to their abilities, but specifically Trump wanted to get his buddies from the military industry complex to benefit, thatโ€™s why he kept bringing it up constantly, to the detriment of the alliance.

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  • [โ€“] 36 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Isn't this the free market they love so much?

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  • [โ€“] -3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Uhm, no. The EU specifically excluding providers based on their location is very much not the free market at work.

    (They can get fucked tho, euro products all the way baby)

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  • [โ€“] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'd argue that the Trumps implication that the US can disable many of these weapons remotely is already a perfectly valid free market reason to not buy them, I mean who wants a back door built into your self defence apparatus?

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 8 months ago

    Agreed. Trump has made it clear that Europe needs weapons primarily to defend itself from the USA.

    It wasnโ€™t Iran that threatened to invade Greenland. Wasnโ€™t russia financing Canadian separatists and threatening to annex a Nato member.

    America is a gangster state. Boycotting the USA is a free-market decision, and the ONLY rational one.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 8 months ago

    It's the EU making the purchase though. Voting with its wallet so to speak. Nobody forces anyone to do anything.

    Me not buying McDonald's is not a distortion of the free market either, just a healthy dietary and monetary decision.

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  • [โ€“] 28 points 8 months ago*

    Expect hostile reaction if you exercise your right to free choice of suppliers. /s

    Fucking bullies.

    Edit: also - politico bad.

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 8 months ago*

    This should just reinforce our [!BuyFromEU@lemmy.dbzer0.com motivations as European individuals !

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  • [โ€“] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "I hate you all", said the fat orange paedo, "but, you know, buy our weapons. And tech. And food. And films. And other things...but, remember, I hate you all. BUY OUR WEAPONS THOUGH!"

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 8 months ago

    Another classic case of extortion and threats from American markets.

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 8 months ago

    The usa: "Buy our stuff and there may be a tween in it for you somewhere down the line! Trust us!"

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well it's time for EU to assume our decisions and not backtrack on that question.

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Here is my Canadian reaction.

    Bwahahahahaha... No.

    Et le reaction en francais pour les Quebecois:

    Ahhhonhonhohohhon... Non, tabernak ostie.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The Trump administration: No ability to negotiate, only threaten and bully. The diplomatic equivalent of little dick energy.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 8 months ago

    This is so psychotic.

    They're essentially saying "If you don't by your weapons from us instead of being self-reliant, then you're strong-arming us out if your market, so we're going to strong-arm you into buying our weapons even though you don't want to. GIVE US YOUR MONEY OR ELSE WE'LL RETALIATE AGAINST YOU!"

    I'm so tired of this abusive mentality.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    It is way past time to put the industrial military complex to rest. We can solve our problems without blowing each other up. At this point I suspect they are the ones manufacturing conflicts.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Problem with arms races is you can't end them unless everyone agrees to end them, otherwise you just forfeit.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I think the majority agree wars/conflicts should end. It is the monied minority keeping it going. How long will we let them pit human against each other to line their pocket books?

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 8 months ago

    Oh I agree, but as long as they can find people to buy their weapons (even on credit that depends on successfully using them) or weild them for them, they won't be going anywhere. And automation is quickly approaching the point where they won't even need others to choose to fight.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Realistically, the average person against cashed up arms dealers who can hire mercenaries at the drop of a hat aren't really in a position to 'let' anyone do anything.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 8 months ago

    US weapons are unreliable, because the US is unreliable. They've made that very clear over the last 10 years.

    Why should anyone in Europe invest further into US weapons, when the US have threaten to annex part of EU territory?

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 8 months ago

    The pentagon and their arms contractors probably don't appreciate us going around endorsing the rumours that they have kills switches in a lot of their gear. Tough shit should've thought of that before you endorsed Israel's bullshit to cancel the first amendment and retaliate against american citizens for exercising an opinion.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    What is the difference between USA and Russia at this point ?

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 8 months ago

    So it's a tribute they want

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 8 months ago

    I wonder what the US MIC is really thinking. More stupid threats dissuade the Europeans from purchasing US made weapons. For every US Dollar spent on NATO, $10.00 returned to the USA. MAGA fucked it all up, tough shit and we will build our own weapon systems with European currency.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 8 months ago

    If Americans want to isolate, let them fucking isolate. Donโ€™t fall for their bullshit.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 8 months ago

    But making us suffer the consequences of our own actions is unfair!

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Lol. Isnt this just capitalism?

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  • There are five asses to suck, get at it...lol

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