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[–] divad@piefed.social 7 points 8 months ago

We use this at work to connect to our internal network. It has a native Linux cliënt. My experience with it has been good.

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

Cool, let's give it a whirl! I accidentally installed the server (for completely self hosted usage) on my home assistant, but now that I got the client installed it looks a lot like tailscale.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

AlternativeTo lists HeadScale as a direct opensource, self-hosted implementation of Tailscale. Why go for Netbird which seems to be a closedsource implementation?

Edit: whoops, netbird is also opensource! Never used these. I'll have a look. Thanks for sharing. Maybe self-hosting with these is safer than making it available to the open internet - and easier!

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

Where the hell did you get that idea? Netbird is fully open source, including the server power you need for brokering. Afaik that part isn't open for Tailscale. You can use none of their infrastructure and not even have an account with them and fully use netbird. You can't do that with Tailscale. See reply from Dojan who did just that, here in this thread.

To be clear, Tailscale is relatively open and generally considered a "good" company, but you still need to use their infrastructure in order to use it. Netbird is fully open.

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[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

I heard there is an sso tax, is this true with the locally hosted server?

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

As far as I know, you can just do that with no cost. But I'm not using it myself, so just check their docs?

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[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Checked docs and sso.tax and seems fine. Cant really trust docs often times they only mention how to set it up not that it cost anything.

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[–] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

So that you can get a version that you don't have to host yourself? Needs differ, and businesses exist, you know.

Also:

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

The official service, hosted by them, exists. You can pay for it just like for Tailscale. If you don't wanna host, use that (like a business might). But you can still see and audit the whole source, including what they are hosting for you, because even that is open source.

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[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago*

Just for heads up, this seems to mess your DNS by default. At least on my Raspberry Pi OS it rewrote /etc/resolv.conf to point to its own DNS which only knew NetBird hostnames, nothing else.

Fixed this with:

sudo netbird down
sudo cp -f /etc/resolv.conf.original.netbird /etc/resolv.conf
sudo netbird up --disable-dns

Also, pings seem to be consistently about double compared to Tailscale between the same hosts.

[–] oyzmo@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago

Very easy and stable to use! But have they fixed the battery use on ios? When I tried it 1y+ ago, it was a major drain on battery (where as tailscale hardly drain any)