Context: a thread about what instance to reccomend.

Turns out talking about .ml users excusing Russian war crimes and Iranian crimes against humanity is not OK in c/asklemmy. Nor is mocking defederated Hexbears on alt accounts who literally admit to sealioning XD

Seems a tale older than FidoNet, we must remember we're one take a ModGod dislikes away from GOODBYE!

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[–] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

After reading the original post, one might assume that the community in question is !asklemmy@lemmy.ml , but after checking the modlog it becomes clear that deal is about !asklemmy@lemmy.world

Since there are no deleted comments in the modlog, there are two options: either .world moderators are now protecting all the .ml narratives and it's PTB then, or this comment was such low quality shitposting that is was unacceptable even by .world standards, and in this case it's clear YDI if not YDM.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    We don't know who owns these instances. It could be anyone.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Doing a ban then quick unban to remove comments so they don't show in the modlog feels kind of abusive. It's exploiting a flaw of Lemmy to prevent the removed comments from showing up.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago

    And if calling people out for sealioning is against the rules, why not just straight ban me? Why ban and insta-unban, just to quietly remove the comments and then not have a ban appeal another mod might see?

    Makes no sense really.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    What was your comment about Iran was it only legitimate condemnation of the regime authoritarianism or did you mention support for the united snakes intervention?

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Simply pointed out how when I see someone defending Russia's invasion or Iran's murder and maiming of their citizens, it's .ML defending it.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Wht dis you lie

    Do you understand that the usa will not differenciate between a pro lgbt and an anti lgbt person. Should we also bomb the homophobic people in the usa?

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Why u bring up several months old unrelated comment about Iran getting their nuclear weaponry sites bombed?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Because you are a liar who claim that the only reason you got removed was because you condemn Iran human right abuses and now you shamelessly defend your former comment where you express supporting bombing nuclear site which is illegal under international laws . Hypocrites was condemning rightfully Russia bombing nuclear sites in Ukraine but support when Israel does it to Iran.

    Everybody should coitize ml users for supporting Russian invasion but it is not a reason to lie about them

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    ?? Bud can you explain what am I "lying" about exactly?

    Are you deadass trying to equate me not being upset with 0 people dying disabling nuclear weapon facilities half a year ago with the ghouls making excuses for the 7,000++ humans the Iranian government massacred for protesting?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    There was no proof of Iran having the intention to build nukes and the attack on those was against international laws that you claim to care about You are no better than the tankis. Both the usa and israel killed a lot more yet you support those bombing Iran knowing very well they also target innocent civilians

    Edit : It is not even true that nobody died too. The nuclear scientists, the techniciens, the administrative workers are all considered civilians and died during the war.

    Did you support usa occupation of Iraq?

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Buddy come on now, there's "no proof" of Iran moving towards building nuclear weapons like there's "no proof" Epstein killed himself.

    I never supported the Iraq occupation, or US + Israel's and Iran's ongoing conflicts, just one time commented I wasn't overly upset (wasn't happy either) to the single in-context action of destroying a nuclear site without killing anyone. I don't actually like wars and think we'd all be better off if we had leaders who built bridges instead of bombs.

    One shouldn't equate 0 people dead with well over 7,000 people dead because they are both against international law.

    My opposition to 7000+ humans being deliberately massacred by the Iranian government isn't that it's against the law, it's the 7000+ dead humans. Laws are not morals.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Keep exposing your hypocrisy

    Buddy come on now, there’s “no proof” of Iran moving towards building nuclear weapons like there’s “no proof” Epstein killed himself.

    Actually believing Iran was going to build the nuclear weapons is like saying Saddam has WMD

    The genocidal state of Israel also have secret nukes, you don't seem to have problem with that

    The assessments from U.S. Intelligence, the IAEA, and the Khamenei fatwa all indicate that there is no active Iranian nuclear weapons program. These findings directly contradict decades of claims made by Benjamin Netanyahu, who has repeatedly insisted that Iran is on the verge of building a bomb.

    One shouldn’t equate 0 people dead with well over 7,000 people dead because they are both against international law.

    My opposition to 7000+ humans being deliberately massacred by the Iranian government isn’t that it’s against the law, it’s the 7000+ dead humans. Laws are not morals.

    You do not oppose the murder of 7k plus otherwise you would not support Israel who is responsible of 70k death , 83% of them are civilians and the United snakes responsible of over a million of deaths

    I never supported the Iraq occupation, or US That's why you hypocrite. Saddam killed 172k Kurds. Yet you support bombing Iran knowing very well Israel and the usa proposedly kills civilians. I am pretty sure you lied again and you would have supported the usa invasion of Iraq for all the kurds that was killed by Saddam

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 8 months ago

    How are we even this far in the weeds??

    This isn't some debate you're "winning" by strawmanning the crap out of me. I explained where I'm at, and at this point you're just putting words in my mouth to then tear down. If you want to have an argument with yourself, go ahead buddy, I will no longer be involved.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    I didn't adress the russian part because there is no excuses to defend Russian invasion.

    And I asked you what was your exact comment so I know if you simply condemned the Iranian regime or you also supported the west intervension bexause there is people who want to bomb Iran for those human right abuses

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    A different comment, but still a clear example of the second:

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    For context, which is often key, that is a several months old comment about Iran's nuclear weaponry sites getting exploded.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You showed no context showing that they removed your comment simply for calling out Iranian human right abuses

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 8 months ago

    I'm not sure what context I can provide exactly, my comments were wiped and there wasn't comment in the modlog to explain what rule I broke.

    I'm just running on the assumption the mod didn't agree and so banned and insta unbanned me, and I think I responded to you up the thread summarizing my first comment that was removed. If there's something else I can give you, let me know.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 8 months ago

    Ah I get you, my original post was something along the lines of 'where can I subscribe to the newsletter to learn more about how Russia has a right to invade their neighbors and how Iran murdering and maiming their citizens is actually OK? Never knew being anti-west made you ontologically good until I heard from a .ml'

    Queue a line of .ml posters exhaustingly arguing semantics instead the point!

    Not once asked for more bombs and death in the world.

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    PTB. That's one of many reasons My instance defederated .ml, AND we have a rule against debate tactics optimised to exhaust and intimidate. If you're sick of having to tolerate those authoritarians, try a better instance.

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